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Thoughts on invisible fencing

Postby shiloh » Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:00 am

It is getting warmer here and I will have to do some fencing
I have all most 2 acres so regular fencing gets pretty exspensive
But I want her to have plenty of room to be in
Any thoughts would be helpfull
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Re: Thoughts on invisible fencing

Postby runningweim » Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:36 am

I have an uncle that swears by invisilbe fencing. I also have heard from a friend (who owns a hardware store) that the non-name brand fencing sold at the hardware stores are not as good as Invisible Fence (TM).

Personally, the biggest issue I have with it is that other dogs can still come into my yard. I have seen some dogs in my yard, that my be friendly, but who knows? It scares me that my dog who is very friendly, may want to protect "her territory" and they may challenge her. It just makes me nervous. :?
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Re: Thoughts on invisible fencing

Postby stephanieplum » Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:51 am

We have one around our entire 5 acres.

It works pretty well. The only time she will bust through it if we are on the other side - which has been twice. Once was a test. We started walking down the road. She was frantic as she saw us go. She paced the flags for a few seconds then bolted after us. Then the other day the boys had friends over and went on a "hike" she busted through it after them.

We probably should have bought a more expensive brand but what done is done.

She isn't out there for endless hours at a time or when we aren't home. But I wanted to keep her safe and out of the road when she went out to potty and wanted to go play when were weren't able to be out there with her.

If she see our neighbors' dogs on either side of us out in their yard, she will start barking and tentativly appoach the edge of the property but will stop when she hears the beeping.

My friend has an Invisible Fence Brand and swears by it. Her Golden got shocked once and never went through it again.
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Re: Thoughts on invisible fencing

Postby WeimLover4Life » Thu Mar 11, 2010 12:17 pm

I have not had invisible fencing myself. I have several friends that use it successfully. The only thing I recommend is that you have someone from the invisible fence company work with you and your pup so that she understands what it is there for. I had a friend that didn't do this and her puppy didn't understand why it was getting shocked. She then became terrified to potty outside. From what I understand the company is really willing to work with you and your dog to get them trained with the fence. Just a suggestion :)
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Re: Thoughts on invisible fencing

Postby versatilek9s » Thu Mar 11, 2010 12:31 pm

It probably depends on your dog and where you live. If you need to worry about keeping other dogs out, then it's a terrible idea. I know two people with weims who have an invisible fence and swear by it. But they also have very responsive and easily trained dogs who they can call off a chase anyway. If you had a hardheaded dog who has a high pain threshold and super high prey drive (yes, weims like this do exist) then you may consider other options. I don't have one and probably never will have one, but I think for the right dog and right circumstance it's a great thing that allows more freedom for the dog.
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Re: Thoughts on invisible fencing

Postby shiloh » Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:06 pm

One of the things I am worried about
is that she would become afraid of going out.
Or freak out when I put the shock collar on her
She can get fearfull of thing sometimes.
My last Weim was fearless you would have had to turn up the shock power all the way
And he would probably go thru it anyway
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Re: Thoughts on invisible fencing

Postby woodylane » Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:25 pm

I have both varieties. Underground wire and wireless.
I did four acres upstate on the farm. Put in by a company that installs. Absolutely calmed my nerves! They know the boundaries.
Learned them in just 24 hrs. I bush-hog paths like a race track. No way could i have fenced the property and they love to run full speed.
Connie was a deer chaser in her prime. She stops just short of the 'beeping'.
The property is remote. Just maybe a dozen cars on a summer sunday. But it just takes one yahoo speeder to kill.
I watched a neighbors dog get hit and tossed 30 feet. The driver crying. I could hear the owner calling from a 1/2 mile away an hour earlier
while i was in the garden. It was horrible.
If i had a normal fence mine would search a way to get through with a pond across the street. They used to sneak across all the time. Now they don't
even go down the drive. If i bring out the leashes they know they get to go for a swim but only with me. The first summer she got across a couple times.
So we just set it higher. (better than the hundred times she snuck off before ) We've had it for about 8 years now. She has never tested it again and
she has a high hunt drive.

I have two invisible fence units. One spare from a yard sale. I take it with me on travels. To my parents and in-laws. Where we live now has all
sorts of fence laws since we are near state parks. The approval process is insane. They like split-rail :roll: no more than 4 ft. Chain-link needs to be
hidden from street view.
At first the neighbors were baffled that mine would run around the front yard, sun themselves, frolic and play without leaving our property.

A friend has one as well for his rescue mutts. 'Jumping' Jack was easy but their new Stella, 'all critters must die' , now has a collar the size of a car battery.
It works. Tolerance is hard to judge on some mixed breeds.

When the invisible fence guy first pulled up he said 'this will be easy'. Mine were off leash and just curious to meet him. He said the hardest are the little
nut-balls that are yanking and rolling on a leash and never have been trained are the most difficult.

Sometimes the deer chew through it. (they must feel a vibration? if they are nesting on it?) Not problem. It takes a few days before the pups figure it
out, but they still stay within the boundaries.

Only a few instances are questionable. Severe thunderstorms. It isn't the possible power outage but something is odd with the system. But mine are
inside anyway during strong storms, as they should be, with their collars off.

I suppose this puts me in the 'swear-by-it' category. But cautious for the first few months.
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Re: Thoughts on invisible fencing

Postby tripodoz » Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:36 pm

This is my 3rd time to try to get this to post....so please forgive me if I appear redundant! We have had the Invisible Fence system since right after it became available on the market. The only advice I will offer is to STICK TO THE TRAINING BY THE LETTER!!! We have it in 4 acres surrounding the house and our dogs don't even have to wear their collars anymore....they know the boundries that well. It will take 4 to 6 weeks of training. The only problem is that it will not hold an unaltered dog if there is a bitch in heat in your neighborhood. He will take the shock to get to the goodies. We live in a rural area and not many people out here let their dogs run loose....we have a dairy farm nearby and Mr. Milker does not appreciate dogs chasin the girls. He shoots.

I highly recommend if it used properly and with the adequate training.

p.s. our neighbor has the knock off brand from a farm supply store and has great success with it.....she has 2 St. Bernards.
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Re: Thoughts on invisible fencing

Postby dakotasdad » Thu Mar 11, 2010 2:19 pm

We had considered getting one back when we had Jesse and Julia. We researched, and debated and debated some more ... then we had a collective epiphany. About one month after adopting Jesse, she ran through a barbed wire fence after a bunny, and tore a $450 hole in her chest. She ran through the barbed wire fence ... and kept going, seemingly unaffected by the hole in her skin. With that in mind, we figured that nothing short of a Taser would stop them if highly motivated, and opted not to get the invisible fence.
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Re: Thoughts on invisible fencing

Postby weimsrock » Thu Mar 11, 2010 2:40 pm

I posted this reply before on another thread so thought I would copy it here. I agree with the previous posts that all dogs are different and for many it may not be a good solution. For us, we have had a very positive experience for the past 14 years with our Invisible Fence. We are on a steep hill that leads down to a wildlife area and it isn't possible for us to use a regular fence on our lot. This was the only solution that would work for us and it has been great. Here's what I wrote before:

We have had an Invisible Fence for about 14 years so thought I would share our experience. Both of our weims honor the fence boundaries, even if they see wildlife in the next door neighbor's yard. We have the front and back yard set up as separate zones. This is very helpful when you want to secure them in one area and not have them run between the two. The Invisible Fence saved us when Hula, our Husky mix, was a puppy. She is now almost 14 years old and the cost of the fencing was worth the peace of mind knowing she wouldn't run from the yard. I know all dogs are different and many don't care about crossing the boundaries for whatever they want to chase but our dogs know where the fence line is and they stop before even getting to the area where they will get a warning beep.

One more note: I recommend testing your dog's collars to make sure the batteries are still good and checking the fence line occasionally for added peace of mind.

P.S We paid for the Invisible Fence trainer for all three dogs and it is worth the extra money.
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Re: Thoughts on invisible fencing

Postby woodylane » Thu Mar 11, 2010 2:47 pm

tripodoz- if someone makes a post while you are writing, it will not put your post through. It asks you to review
an added post so you can respond accordingly. Only then can you re-send you post. Or maybe you just figured that out!
I've lost a few posts recently! :evil: . I keep forgetting that function. :o

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she ran through a barbed wire fence after a bunny, and tore a $450 hole in her chest.


Connie did that twice. But much cheaper repairs at the country vet.

It's a 40 acre farm but we just have 6. Hidden barbed wire up the hill off our property. It is a three season farm so we don't go up in the winter.
For sometimes three months. They know the boundaries immediately on the first spring visit. Even without fresh batteries in the collars.
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Re: Thoughts on invisible fencing

Postby Wntrheart » Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:16 pm

We have a large backyard that is surrounded by split rail fence with "heavy chicken wire" along it. The backyard has three areas, our deck/hot tub area with gardens, the kennel area which is all rock and then the play area which includes a basketball court and grassy area. My hubby put an invisible fence (purchased from Lowe's) around our decked area. This allows the dogs to be with us in the "social area" but keeps them from doing their business in the grass where my daughter plays. Our system has a small beep that sounds when the dogs get about a foot from the "live wire" and then after that it delivers varying levels of shock I believe as they get closer to the wire. We aren't really using it to keep them in the backyard as their kennel is chain link fence, but it keeps them out of the areas that we want to keep "clean". We haven't had the collars on all winter.....so there will be a learning curve again this spring. :o
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Re: Thoughts on invisible fencing

Postby CherrystoneWeims » Thu Mar 11, 2010 5:46 pm

My neighbors have Invisible Fence. Their Labradors have been trained with it by the company. When a deer gets close the dogs will run right through it and take the shock. I hear them screaming from the shock while running throught the woods chasing the deer.

If these dogs, who are not hunting dogs, will take the shock I don't want to chance it with mine. I've seen so many Weims chase deer when they have an electric training collar on and the handler is giving them a good jolt. It has to be turned up really high to break the concentration and drive of the dog on the deer.

When I helped at animal control while living at the beach there was a Golden that would come in often because he had gone through the electric fence.

St Bernards, huskys, etc. are not hunting dogs so for the most part don't have the prey drive of Weims.

I also know of a Weim who was trained by the Invisible Fence company who refused to potty outdoors after the training.
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Re: Thoughts on invisible fencing

Postby shudog » Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:00 pm

Dogs can & will go past the barrier if they are interested enough. I also know that once a dog crosses the barrier and realizes they are ok, they will do it more. My buddy has a 5 acre lot and 2 labs. 1 of them continually tested the barrier and would cross it. Over Christmas they both crossed it and took off. 1 made it home, the other was hit by a car.
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Re: Thoughts on invisible fencing

Postby whatagoon » Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:41 pm

shiloh wrote:One of the things I am worried about
is that she would become afraid of going out.
Or freak out when I put the shock collar on her


We've got a normal fence so I can't comment freely on this, but here's an idea. Could you put the shock collar on her for a few days then start training with the fence? That way if she is already used to the collar and she would understand that it is the area where she went, not the new thing on her neck, that gave her the shock. I have no clue if this would work, just an idea.
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