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Ellinorianne
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:35 pm    Post subject: Sophie is hard to handle again Reply with quote

It started this weekend, especially yesterday. She's been getting a lot more exercise but she just wigged out yesterday. On Saturday the trainer sat on her for ten minutes to try to get her to calm down.

Last night Gary tried the same thing, couldn't get her to calm down.

I just tried it and couldn't get her to calm down. How the hell do you get them to calm down? Geez. And she's snapping and biting more.

She was so docile at the end of the week and sweet.

The other thing is, what to do when she jumps on the counters, etc. The trainer said not to touch her. So then what? Can I hear some methods.

I'm tired, I don't think I was prepared for a spazzed out dog. She got really crazy when I got home and was just moving her crate around from jumping so much.

She's in her crate too much but when she's out she's crazy. I've heard people talk about leasing her? How would that work.

It's a process.
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LucyLU
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How old is she again? Mine is nine months old... ands ometimes when she gets spun up I try to do something to change her attention... I hve a backyard and sometimes just taking her out there for a few minutes and throwing a ball helps... or letting her run around on her own. Sometimes even throwing a ball in the house helps too... I dont know about your situation much... but try maybe changing what she is doing.

Seems weird to not touch her when she is on the counters... i puch lucy down and say get down. BUt Im not trainer!!!

Hang in there.... just wait til she hugs you again Smile
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Ellinorianne
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in Southern Cal too Smile That's what the trainer said, don't touch her. She said touch is like condoning the behavior. Weird.

She's 18 weeks old.
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LucyLU
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ooo a baby baby Smile I can't imagine that being pushed off a counter would condone the behavior... weird.

What part of cali?
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Ellinorianne
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aliso Viejo in Orange County.

Sophie jumps and the ignoring thing doesn't work when she gets into food, etc. Especially food she shouldn't have. I really don't want to keep her in her crate all the time. She gets way too excited too when I get home. It's weird, because she doesn't get like that with my husband.

Oi.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the same problems with Jake. An hour at the dog park gets him calm enough to where he at least listens when I tell him no, even if it only lasts a few minutes. As far as the counter surfing, maybe try time out. Jake learned not to jump on the couch after only a few days of time out every time he put even a paw up there. He will still do it every once in a while for attention, but he is a puppy. Sometimes that is hard to remember, but despite the 60 lbs, he is still just a puppy. Just don't give up on your baby girl as you both are still learning!
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LucyLU
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cause your the mommy Wink mine did that with me for awhile. I ignored her when I came home and eventually she started to chill a little. I think you should touch her if you need to get her out of food etc.... that seems a little ridiculous.


I live in Murrieta... not very far from you at all! About an hour.
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luana80it
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JUMPING ON COUNTERS SEEMS TO BE PART OF WEIMS. THEY LOVE TO JUMP! AND THE COUNTERS ARE FULL OF SURPRISES FOR THEM....OR FOOD.... WE YELL AT THEM OR CLAP OUR HANDS AND THEY STOP IMMEDIATELY, BUT THEY WOULD STILL DO IT WHEN WE ARE NOT AROUND. IT'S NOT TRUE THAT YOU CAN'T TOUCH THEM. IF YOU TOUCH THEM ON THEIR NECK LIKE A SMALL BITE AND SAY NO, VERY LOUD, THEY DON'T LIKE IT, AND THEY STOP WHATEVER THEY ARE DOING STRAIGHT AWAY. YOU DON'T HURT THEM, BUT IS THE WAY THEY COMMUNICATE, IT'S LIKE WHAT THEIR MOTHER DOEA WHEN THEIR PUPPIES AND WANTS TO STOP THEIR UNWANTED BEHAVIORS. WE WATCH THE DOG WHISPERER A LOT AND WE USE SOME OF THE ADVICE HE GIVES, AND THEY WORK. I DON'T BELIEVE IN MOST OF ALL THE COMMERCIAL TRAINERS AROUND, THERE ARE ONLY FEW TRAINERS VERY GOOD WITH DOGS. ANYBODY CAN MAKE A DOG SIT, LAY AND ROLL WITH TREATS. I DID THAT WITHOUT HAVING A TRAINER HELPING ME. BUT WEIMARANER NEED WAY MORE THAN THAT. USUALLY MY DOGS BEHAVE WAY BETTER WHEN WE TAKE THEM OUT FOR 2 HOURSE RUNNING, WALING AND PLAYING. THE BEST THING FOR THEM IS THE DOG BEACH. EVERYTIME WE COME BACK FROM THERE THEY SLEEP ALL DAY OR JUST CHILL ON THE COUCH!!!!!!
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Beth
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OMG! I think our weimies are soul sisters! Daisy had the weekend from hell, after a period of a couple weeks with good (or decent) puppy behavior.
I think that they are like kids, sometimes they just get into things and go through a rough patch and you just have to do what you can do to bear it.
I've found that the crate is my best friend when she is misbehaving. Gives her time to calm down, and me time to recoup. Try it. I don't think that a couple of days with alot of crate time will harm her.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you say the trainer SAT on the dog for 10 minutes? That sounds weird to me. My trainer had me do something he called quiet time. Sit on the floor with your back braced against the wall and make the dog lie completely on you with his back against your front. Its kind of hard to explain. But you hold on to his front paws until he stops struggling. This show that you are the boss and in charge.

I have read here but I haven't tried it to get mouse traps and put them upside down on the counter. Then when the puppy jumps up the trap goes off and scares them but it doesn't hurt them.

I can't do that because my cats use the counters as a safe haven from the puppy Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I managed to teach Marley that when I raised my hand she needs to sit down and relax. I can even do it when she is freaking out and running all over the place. She still has that crazy look in her eyes, but at least I have her attention. I remember laying on her to hold her down to get her to settle when she was younger, but it took a while.
I would try to get Sophie's attention on something else when she is like that. Get a few treats and work on commands or throw the ball a few times. Maybe that will help her focus her energy on something rather than just being a spaz. We still have good days and bad, but it is so worth it.
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Beth
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:38 am    Post subject: Re: Sophie is hard to handle again Reply with quote

Ellinorianne wrote:
I've heard people talk about leasing her? How would that work.

It's a process.


Leasing her?
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GailB
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you tuck your fingers in like a fist position...she cannot get at your fingers to bite. Give her a kong ot toy.

If you think she is in her kennel too much...this is why she is so excited when she gets freedom.

Get down to her level..especially when you get her out of her crate,bend down and give her belly rubs this way she will not jump on you.


Can you involve her more in the everyday activity around the house.When your child sits to watch television can you calm the dog by sitting with her at the same,rubbing her ears etc.,just to get her calm and quieted down. Smile
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Ellinorianne
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 5:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Sophie is hard to handle again Reply with quote

Beth wrote:
Ellinorianne wrote:
I've heard people talk about leasing her? How would that work.

It's a process.


Leasing her?


Leashing, sorry. She's paid in full and ours. Embarassed
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anne
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ellinorianne wrote:
Aliso Viejo in Orange County.

Sophie jumps and the ignoring thing doesn't work when she gets into food, etc. Especially food she shouldn't have. I really don't want to keep her in her crate all the time. She gets way too excited too when I get home. It's weird, because she doesn't get like that with my husband.

Oi.


You live in So Cal?! Damn I could have been helping you in person if I had known.
Start to model your language like your husband's, it sounds like she is being respectful of him.
Also if you got your dog from a breeder in the Riverside area, I know dogs from a couple kennels down there and some have trainability issues. I've worked with quite a few.
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