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afromaiko
Young Weim
Joined: 17 Dec 2007
Posts: 110
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Fur Kids: Mika the Wimmerwhatsit. |
 Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:17 pm Post subject: Paradoxical reaction to Valium |
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Our vet prescribed Valium as an attempt to even out Mika's separation anxiety, she can be a bit up & down. Great sometimes, freaky at others. The main problem is the neighbours complaining, they won't even give her a chance to settle down any more.
Anyway, we gave her the Valium a few times (5mg tablet) but she seems to have got worse. I was reading that in some case it can have this effect. She most certainly does not seem to be more calm or relaxed. We give it to her 30-45 mins before we leave and she also usually eats some kibble too. We've been videoing her and the tablets don't seem to be doing anything.
We'll keep trying and ask our vet for advice before doing anything, but were wondering if anyone else had tried giving their Weim this and what dosages they'd had success with? |
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AmazingGrayce
Adult Weim
Joined: 18 May 2008
Posts: 468
Location: Marlton, NJ
Fur Kids: Windy\'s Amazing Grayce (Grace)
Weimaraner
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Nell
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:13 pm Post subject: Re: Paradoxical reaction to Valium |
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| afromaiko wrote: | Our vet prescribed Valium as an attempt to even out Mika's separation anxiety, she can be a bit up & down. Great sometimes, freaky at others. The main problem is the neighbours complaining, they won't even give her a chance to settle down any more.
Anyway, we gave her the Valium a few times (5mg tablet) but she seems to have got worse. I was reading that in some case it can have this effect. She most certainly does not seem to be more calm or relaxed. We give it to her 30-45 mins before we leave and she also usually eats some kibble too. We've been videoing her and the tablets don't seem to be doing anything.
We'll keep trying and ask our vet for advice before doing anything, but were wondering if anyone else had tried giving their Weim this and what dosages they'd had success with? |
I actually just got off the phone with the behaviorists and we discussed this exact thing. I am one who would not place my dog on valium when the vet recommended it and have been very iffy about any type of medication for the SA. I chatted about this with the behaviorist and he also agreed with me and gave me some more info on using valium. The problem with something like valium is it is not fixing the problem it is only covering it up and in a way putting the dog at a disadvantage. You are now disabling the dog so it cant have the natural reaction its been having for whatever reason which in turn may actually cause the dog more anxiety than less.
Im just getting started with the behaviorists but will be trying a different medication that works alongside of different training methods as well. You may want to seek a behaviorists help with the SA.
Also I havent looked into it recently but hte long term effects of using something like valium might not be good. |
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afromaiko
Young Weim
Joined: 17 Dec 2007
Posts: 110
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Fur Kids: Mika the Wimmerwhatsit. |
| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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We had those very same thoughts and we are considering what other options we have. Mika is a real bizarre one, she's been absolutely awesome for up to 2 whole weeks at a time being left alone each day while we are at work. We record her, then I review it each night.. it's very tiresome.
But then something will set her off at other times and she'll howl & bark not long after we've left and continue for perhaps an hour. She usually gives up after that, but occasionally has a winge on & off again during the day. She's worst when we leave her on the weekend, during the day, to go shopping or something. During the week we go to work a lot earlier. At least she has learnt to give up *eventually* now.
We had a trainer come out a while back that gave us exercises to practice to desensitize her to us leaving, they seemed to work well for a while. We've been trying to figure out what the trigger is but are a bit stumped at the moment. After she gets anxious she may continue that behaviour all week, then be the quietest dog in the neighbourhood for the whole following week. No kidding!
Obviously, dogs bark and we don't mind if she has the odd 'woof' during the day time, but it's these extremes that we want to smooth over somehow. Just when we think she's gotten over it she will start up again.  |
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2kids2weims
Adult Weim
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Posts: 285
Location: Canada
Fur Kids: Cooper
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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Something to keep in mind is that most psychiatric drugs take at least 6 weeks to work. Most human patients treated with these drugs need to try 2 or 3 different drugs to find the one that works for them.  |
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