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AmazingGrayce
Adult Weim
Adult Weim


Joined: 18 May 2008
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Location: Marlton, NJ
Fur Kids: Windy\'s Amazing Grayce (Grace)
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

weim2mom wrote:
So, the urinalysis came back perfectly normal. I am confused as to what could be causing this.

Like I said, it's kind of random, and she only does it while sleeping (on the couch), never on her bed or in her crate. She goes in spurts. One week, she can have 3 accidents, then no more for several weeks.

Any thoughts?


Grace did this!! She doesnt do it while awake...seems to do it more often when shes SUPER tired (after a day at the dog park and drinking a lot) but sometimes would just do it on an average day as well. She could do it once a week, 3 times a week or once a month. She would usually wake up and start licking herself down there like crazy bc Im not sure she could quite figure out while all of a sudden she was sitting in a puddle of wet. There was no real pattern..and since it wasnt a huge issue I would constantly forget to mention it to the vet.

Has Chevy been on anything for it ever? I did finally mention it to my vet a month and a half ago or so ...he gave me some pills to try. It worked for Grace INSTANTLY. She has not had one incident of "leaking in her sleep" since taking these pills. The prescription said for her to take 2 a day but it worked so well I cut down to 1 (since I will constantly have to refill)..1 a day still worked so now I actually cut down to 1 every other day and its still working. The vet did say its hit or miss...it works on some dogs but not others. It has worked wonders for Grace.

The name of the pill directly off the bottle is: Phenylpropanolamine HCI 50 mg
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2kids2weims
Adult Weim
Adult Weim


Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Posts: 285
Location: Canada
Fur Kids: Cooper
Indy
PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cooper had some of the same rashes/yeast infections as others, plus he licked his feet and around his butt (not anal glads)constantly. He had antibiotics & prednisone. He also had food intolerances- we think to grain.

When we switched to raw & had omega 3 supplements/yogurt as part of that, alot of these problems cleared up. I have not cleaned his ears in a year b/c there is nothing in them. We have gone a year without a foot rash/yeast infection. (Raw started last April).

Once the drugs get you through the immediate problem, it might be worth it to look at omegas as others have mentioned, yogurt or even raw. It might not even be the main food, it could be something you are treating with. It might sound kind of odd to say look at the food when you see the connection between grass & the rash, but the grass pollen might just be the final straw in a sensitive dog.
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weim2mom
Wise Old Weim
Wise Old Weim


Joined: 16 Jan 2008
Posts: 1287
Location: Anne Arundel County, MD
Fur Kids: Chevy and Hemi, both Weimaraners
PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AmazingGrayce wrote:


Grace did this!! She doesnt do it while awake...seems to do it more often when shes SUPER tired (after a day at the dog park and drinking a lot) but sometimes would just do it on an average day as well. She could do it once a week, 3 times a week or once a month. She would usually wake up and start licking herself down there like crazy bc Im not sure she could quite figure out while all of a sudden she was sitting in a puddle of wet. There was no real pattern..and since it wasnt a huge issue I would constantly forget to mention it to the vet.

Has Chevy been on anything for it ever? I did finally mention it to my vet a month and a half ago or so ...he gave me some pills to try. It worked for Grace INSTANTLY. She has not had one incident of "leaking in her sleep" since taking these pills. The prescription said for her to take 2 a day but it worked so well I cut down to 1 (since I will constantly have to refill)..1 a day still worked so now I actually cut down to 1 every other day and its still working. The vet did say its hit or miss...it works on some dogs but not others. It has worked wonders for Grace.

The name of the pill directly off the bottle is: Phenylpropanolamine HCI 50 mg



No, she's never been on anything. My vet said that since it didn't happen that often, she'd rather not overload her with medications, especially because she is so sensitive to well, everything.

If it gets worse, or more persistent, then the vet said that she'd prescribe something for her.

I am thinking so worst case scenario, and I know nothing about dog anatomy... I am just hoping that she is just too tired/lazy, and it's not some sort of mass.
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iris
Champion Weim
Champion Weim


Joined: 19 Nov 2007
Posts: 985

Fur Kids: Rocky, Weimaraner
PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guys, check this out!
I ended up buying the product and will let you know if his allergies improve!

http://www.weimaraneraddict.com/discussion/finally-having-success-with-my-wiem-s-many-allergies-vt9466.html

We had a really bad day today, he completely broke out into the worse hives/rash/bumps i have seen! I gave him a bath but i am thinking its the pesticides they sprayed around the apartment a couple of weeks ago.
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anne
Wise Old Weim
Wise Old Weim


Joined: 10 Aug 2005
Posts: 2624
Location: Los Angeles, California
PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might want to consider going to a holistic vet. There are many that are trained traditionally but tend to look at the "whole picture" rather than every symptom.

Benedryl, prednisone, soothing cremes/shampoos, all have their place. They can break a cycle of chewing/scratching which can lead to infections and also of course for making a dog comfortable, but they merely take care of symptoms, NOT the source.

Allergy issues are basically immune system issues and therefore IMHO the issue needs to be looked at holistically. Improve the dogs health from the inside out. Indeed there may be ONE ingredient that the dog cannot tolerate, but I have often found that once the diet is good a dog that would react to an ingredient can tolerate it once he is fullly healthy. Weims are known for immune system problems and so there may be a genetic component to this. Let the breeder know what is going on.

Also with weight gain as an additional symptom, I would get his thyroid tested - FULL PANEL is the only one thta will tell you anything.
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weimdogmom
Champion Weim
Champion Weim


Joined: 11 Feb 2008
Posts: 680

Fur Kids: Jazz, terrier mix
Mayu, weim
PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree about trying to find a holistic vet in your area for help with treating/dealing with allergies. Be prepared, though, with lots of questions.
Some work with Chinese herbs, some with western. Some may recommend acupuncture. They, too, will stress the importance of a good diet and supplements for skin and coat health.

Jazz did go to a holistic vet last year. The vet was trained in Chinese herbs. These came 'premixed'. I asked what was in them and didn't get a good answer, but was assured it was safe. (Apparently, the vet did not know the entire list of what was included - only what this particular type was meant to do) Jazz had a horrible reaction - she got even more itchy and diarrhea. So we stopped using it. (She was so pitiful, Allen doesn't want try it again--and that's the only time he's said that.) Perhaps Jazz's system is just unusually sensitive, maybe we tried to have her on too much it too quickly.

I don't doubt, though, that holistic treatment can be beneficial and possibly reduce or eliminate the needs for prednisone, antihistamines and such.
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DenverDog9
Young Weim
Young Weim


Joined: 01 Feb 2007
Posts: 137
PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just read this post and a lot of it reminds me of my girl Denver. We took her to the vet last week and he told us we need to take her to the dermatologist to get tested for allergies. She has really bad sores on her feet and she has dirty ears all the time. i know it is going to be expensive when we go so we are trying to figure out what it is before we go. I actually might think it is her treats. So I am not giving her those anymore to see if that helps. Its really hard because I dont like to walk or run with her because I know that her feet get really bad. So I am hoping for some suggestions. Thanks for listening.
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