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weim2mom
Wise Old Weim
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Joined: 16 Jan 2008
Posts: 1287
Location: Anne Arundel County, MD
Fur Kids: Chevy and Hemi, both Weimaraners
PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 9:57 pm    Post subject: off leash distractions Reply with quote

So, I've always worried about Chevy being off leash. Hemi's fine.. he always stays within 100 feet of me.

So, I cam home last night to two tired pups. Curious, I asked my hubby what was wrong with them (I typically do all the exercising with them). He said that he had been taking them over to the school near our house and letting them run off leash for about an hour.

I was Shocked shocked Shocked !

Chevy, off leash?? He said that she'd kind of wander off a few hundred feet ahead and sniff, but come back.

Well, the past few days, I've been giving it a shot. I've been taking them over to a vacant lot near by that's about 4 acres. They play ball, run after each other and come back. I was amazed!

The only thing that she will not come back for is animals. Dogs, cat, birds... whatever, she's gone after them.
We took them over to the school tonight with the chuck it, and she was way more interested in the flock of geese. Hemi chased them and came right back, I never let Chevy even try.

I am very proud of them, they are doing better... but I'd like to hear how your weims do with these temptations...
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ange165
Wise Old Weim
Wise Old Weim


Joined: 24 Mar 2008
Posts: 1186
Location: Australia
Fur Kids: Ruby (Weimaraner)
PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ruby's pretty bad.. off lead, she sees people, other dogs etc. doesn't run off but just kind of saunters over there as if saying 'yo, what up?'. She won't listen when there's something else more interesting than her mum.. Rolling Eyes
she's not particualry interested in birds though. I guess that will come when she's older?!
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weim2mom
Wise Old Weim
Wise Old Weim


Joined: 16 Jan 2008
Posts: 1287
Location: Anne Arundel County, MD
Fur Kids: Chevy and Hemi, both Weimaraners
PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hemi won't run off for people... but I have to make sure there isn't anyone or anything around for her to run to, jump on, etc. I wouldn't mind her going to say hello, but she is yet to break the jumping up to say hello habit.

I guess it doesn't help that I let her 'give me kisses' Embarassed .
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sterlingsmom
Champion Weim
Champion Weim


Joined: 13 May 2007
Posts: 925
Location: Tampa, Florida
Fur Kids: Two Weimaraners (Sterling and Colt)
Appendix Quarter Horse (Pride)
PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine have always been really good at recall (especially Sterling) and last Friday, I had them at the barn, and they saw a lady walking a dog accross the street (my fiance was out front with them) about 200 yards away, and they TOOK OFF accross the street! Shocked I didn't see it. I would have lost my mind. David actually called Sterling AFTER she went accross, and sure enough, she RAN BACK TO HIM!! MEN!! I was so mad that he called her back! He said all the cars stopped, thankfully, until he got them both. They haven't been turned loose at the barn since. I feel if they don't come back EVERY SINGLE TIME no matter what the distraction, they aren't ready to be off lead. Period
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freespiritmom
Wise Old Weim
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Joined: 01 Apr 2008
Posts: 1462
Location: East Texas
Fur Kids: Silver Bullet, Sam Elliott & Duke
PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sam and Bullet are like your two Sam will come right back but Bullet looks at me like I am crazy and will run in the opposite direction. I am lucky enough to have a big pasture where I can let them run. They will both run until they are tired and then go to the truck to get ready to go home.
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NenaGunther
Wise Old Weim
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Joined: 11 Feb 2008
Posts: 1957
Location: Monticello, NY
Fur Kids: Nena CD, Weimaraner
Gunther, Weimaraner
PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nena is pretty good off leash, but I've used a whistle and she knows if she hears it, she better come back NOW! If we are on a hike, she checks in (I know thats not what hunting dogs are supposed to do) but we hike alot and I like her to check back with me.

Gunther, well, I haven't attempted to even try off-leash. We are going to start taking a class with our trainers to train him the recall with an e-collar.
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peppernaei
Wise Old Weim
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Joined: 26 Aug 2007
Posts: 1266
Location: southern ontario
Fur Kids: marvin - weimaraner - 1 year
zaphod - shih tzu cross - 15 years
PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also use a whistle because I find it gets Marvin's attention before I call come and he comes a running. We trained for distractions with a long line first so I could reel him in if he didn't come right away. And at the beginning I praised him with special treats if he came back.

I've been told the checking in is fine even with a hunting dog as long as they continue to range out and not come back every two seconds.
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DoubleTrouble
Champion Weim
Champion Weim


Joined: 20 Jan 2008
Posts: 671

Fur Kids: Weimaraners: Josie and Cache
PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cache stays very close, has a good recall and not easily distracted. Josie, I don't off-leash often in places other than parks. Sometimes when we get home, I will let her walk to the door if no one is around because both of them run straight to my door. She gets VERY distracted by everything-- people, dogs, birds, rabbits, cats, anything that moves. One of the best ways I have found to get her to remember her recall is practice some training with her before she can get off-leash, especially if there are other dogs off leash. Like, she has to successfully do a sit-down-sit before she can go play. I think it reminds her who is boss.
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tltrooster
Adult Weim
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Joined: 26 Dec 2007
Posts: 457
Location: West Texas
Fur Kids: Champ - Weimaraner Almost 2
Callie - 10yr Calico Cat
Bear - 9 yr Gray Cat
PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Champs recall is good on some days and not on others. I take him to
a baseball field and I let him run off lead, but he will not come back to me
when I call him if here are quite a few birds flying over, and he is more interested in the birds. Other than that, he can be in the outfield and me on the pitchers mound and call him and he comes. I have gotten a whistle and I am going to try it, especially with distractions.

Usually around the house, we can go from back yard to front yard, but I usually have his leash attached so I can grab, in case he darts. He hasnt
yet, but I am not taking any chances.
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NenaGunther
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Location: Monticello, NY
Fur Kids: Nena CD, Weimaraner
Gunther, Weimaraner
PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peppernaei wrote:
I've been told the checking in is fine even with a hunting dog as long as they continue to range out and not come back every two seconds.



Good to know, thanks! Very Happy
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anne
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Joined: 10 Aug 2005
Posts: 2632
Location: Los Angeles, California
PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NenaGunther wrote:
peppernaei wrote:
I've been told the checking in is fine even with a hunting dog as long as they continue to range out and not come back every two seconds.



Good to know, thanks! Very Happy


I don't know what you mean by checking in per se, but for hunting you don't want your dog checking all the way back in, that is wasted energy for the dog to cover the same ground again. The dog should be cognizant of your whereabouts all the time, even the bigger running dogs. They will move in the direction you are going and will check in in the sense that they may come back enough to see which way you are going and will continue to hunt new ground.

Also if you hike a lot on trails I would use another collar or something. You want your dog to understand the difference. Trail running hunting dogs don't find birds.

If you were competing in field trials, you'd get dinged big time for checking in all the way, too often, and running trails...

Just FYI.
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Rosko
Young Weim
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Joined: 27 Sep 2007
Posts: 187
Location: Sandy, Utah
Fur Kids: Rosko, 6 wks old... here Nov9th! (Weim)
Casey, 13yr Black Cat
Mina, 13yr Grey Cat
Lucy, 13yr Calico Cat
PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have been using a 'emergency recall' technique with Rosko that has worked VERY well.

Basically, instead of calling it 'come' you save that and name it something else that _no one_ will ever really say around the dog. Then, you get a very special treat that the dog will only ever get when you use this command (we use roast beef). It is VERY important that the dog only gets this treat for this specific command. He only gets the roast beef if he nails it perfectly meaning he instantly stops whatever he is doing and runs full speed back to us.

Start in 'no fail' situations and work up basically. Three times a day at first, then once the ball is rolling take it down to once a day then only a couple/few times a week to practice.

We can use this emergency recall with Rosko anywhere and he will immediately return now... I mean RUN at full throttle back to us instantly.

Now that we have it pretty much mastered, I'm hoping to use the same technique to get his 'come' more developed using just normal treats.

We do not use the 'emergency' recall for anything but emergencies (and practice); however. 'Come' is still for that which is why I'm going to work the same technique but without the uber reward to try and get 'come' to that level.

It truly is amazing how well this emergency recall works in a dire situation (i.e. the dog is about to bolt out onto a major freeway after a bird). I've stopped Rosko instantly and gotten him back to me when I truly thought all was lost before.
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