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GailB
Wise Old Weim
Joined: 17 Sep 2007
Posts: 1843
Location: New Brunswick,Canada
Fur Kids: Shadow 10 yr.old Black female labrador retriever. Hunter 4 yr. old weim |
 Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 6:34 am Post subject: |
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| h20fwlkillr wrote: | | Quote: | | ...They are better than any book out there |
Ah, it's just because we don't charge nuthin.  |
I was thinking that...LOL |
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h20fwlkillr
Adult Weim
Joined: 19 Dec 2006
Posts: 487
Location: Holden, Mo.
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| Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 11:31 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Something else why it's so important to teach steady to shot...and you can share this with your friends too.
A friend of ours was hunting with a buddy whom owned a GSP. Right before the pheasant was shot, the dog immediately gave chase and *BOOM!* ...ran straight into a barbed wire-fence. The dog received 60+ stitches and the vet bill was costly.
Moral of the story...it would be wise to teach a dog steady to shot |
I guess I'm gonna have to keep you in line again. Steady to shot probably won't stop a situation like that. Steady to release might, but doubt it. Dogs get fixated on the bird and get tunnel vision. The only thing they can see is the bird. I've seen dogs run straight into trees on a retrieve, just because they were concentrating so hard on the bird. I still firmly believe however, that a dog should be steady to shot at a minimum and steady to release is best. |
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DanniGirl
Champion Weim
Joined: 01 Mar 2007
Posts: 837
Location: Flagstaff, AZ
Fur Kids: FM Blue Weim- "Danni" |
| Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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| h20fwlkillr wrote: |
I guess I'm gonna have to keep you in line again. |
LMAO!
| h20fwlkillr wrote: | | Steady to shot probably won't stop a situation like that. Steady to release might, but doubt it. Dogs get fixated on the bird and get tunnel vision. The only thing they can see is the bird. I've seen dogs run straight into trees on a retrieve, just because they were concentrating so hard on the bird. I still firmly believe however, that a dog should be steady to shot at a minimum and steady to release is best. |
Hypothetically speaking, shouldn't steady to release stop a situation like that...IF trained correctly?
Danni used to go crazy after the flush but there has been a decrease of her acrobatic antics (-LOL) as we continue to break her. (We're training steady to release...) |
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h20fwlkillr
Adult Weim
Joined: 19 Dec 2006
Posts: 487
Location: Holden, Mo.
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| Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Hypothetically speaking, shouldn't steady to release stop a situation like that...IF trained correctly?
Danni used to go crazy after the flush but there has been a decrease of her acrobatic antics (-LOL) as we continue to break her. (We're training steady to release...) |
In theory, yes. In the real world, not as often as one would like. In a truly well broke dog, I would say that 99% of the time training would outweigh desire for the bird. In the average trained dog, I would have to guess 50/50. I would much rather see a dog crash into things hunting though, than see a dog tip toeing around. But then again, I'd rather see a dog tip toe than jump up into the line of fire. |
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DanniGirl
Champion Weim
Joined: 01 Mar 2007
Posts: 837
Location: Flagstaff, AZ
Fur Kids: FM Blue Weim- "Danni" |
| Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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| h20fwlkillr wrote: |
In theory, yes. In the real world, not as often as one would like. In a truly well broke dog, I would say that 99% of the time training would outweigh desire for the bird... I would much rather see a dog crash into things hunting though, than see a dog tip toeing around. |
LOL! Yeah I guess I could agree with there! -Danni has run into some cactus though and that wasn't fun. 
I like it when they're is so excited, they are shaking with anticipation...now that's fun!
| h20fwlkillr wrote: | | But then again, I'd rather see a dog tip toe than jump up into the line of fire. |
True... |
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h20fwlkillr
Adult Weim
Joined: 19 Dec 2006
Posts: 487
Location: Holden, Mo.
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| Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 1:01 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | LOL! Yeah I guess I could agree with there! -Danni has run into some cactus though and that wasn't fun.
I like it when they're is so excited, they are shaking with anticipation...now that's fun!
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My male gets so worked up on birds sometimes, he drools and foams at the mouth. You ought to see him get fired up when ducks are coming in. He can't wait for me to shoot. During duck season, he'll grab his vest and bring it to me like he's trying to tell me "hurry up". He beats me to the blind every morning. |
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DanniGirl
Champion Weim
Joined: 01 Mar 2007
Posts: 837
Location: Flagstaff, AZ
Fur Kids: FM Blue Weim- "Danni" |
| Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 11:14 am Post subject: |
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| h20fwlkillr wrote: |
My male gets so worked up on birds sometimes, he drools and foams at the mouth. You ought to see him get fired up when ducks are coming in. He can't wait for me to shoot. During duck season, he'll grab his vest and bring it to me like he's trying to tell me "hurry up". He beats me to the blind every morning. |
Now that would be something to see! To say he's birdy is an understatement...LMAO!  |
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