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BreasMom Housebroken

Joined: 30 Mar 2008 Posts: 90 Location: BC, Canada
Fur Kids: Brea a Weim |
Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:42 pm Post subject: Bordetella Vaccine |
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I never vaccinated Brea for bordetella and now I heard that apparently a dog in my neighborhood has kennel cough.
Since this I haven't taken Brea outside our yard.
How contagious is this and is it life threatening.
I worry about vaccinating her for this as she has had reactions to her regular vaccines.
I never board Brea in any kennels, we go to the park for exercise where she sometimes plays with other dogs, and she goes to the vet around other animals for short periods of time.
Do most people vaccine their weims for bordetella?  |
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youhavenoidea Wise Old Weim

Joined: 27 Jan 2008 Posts: 1835 Location: Simcoe, Ontario, Canada
Fur Kids: Slade - Weimaraner
Thor - American Pit Bull Terrier |
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:50 am Post subject: |
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I'm still on the fence as to whether my puppy will be getting that one.
He will not be getting leptospirosis or lyme. |
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DukesMom Wise Old Weim

Joined: 23 Dec 2007 Posts: 1107 Location: California
Fur Kids: Duke - Weim
Bailey - Pug
Gracie - Weim |
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:08 am Post subject: |
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| Most kennels require Bordatella. I have not vaccinated Gracie for it. They did Duke (without my permission) when they neutered him. From what I understand there is no proof that the vaccine even does any good. I will not do Gracie unless I'm forced to. |
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peppernaei Wise Old Weim

Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 1108 Location: southern ontario
Fur Kids: marvin - weimaraner - 1 year
zaphod - shih tzu cross - 15 years |
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:16 am Post subject: |
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Marvin's had both leptospirosis and bordatella. He had both separately and alone.
He already had bordatella when I picked him up from the breeder at 8 weeks and I will be revaccinating with the nasal version when he is due. There are less reactions to this form versus the injection and my vet and breeder believe it infers greater immunity.
I agonized over leptosporosis but since there is a higher incidence in parts of Ontario, I live off a conservation area, I travel with my dogs and and I am field training with Marvin, I decided to vaccinate. My vet uses the newer lepto vaccine which is a viral carrier with subunits of the bacteria rather than the whole organism bacterine vaccine of the past and we had no problems with it. |
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weimdogmom Champion Weim

Joined: 11 Feb 2008 Posts: 654
Fur Kids: Jazz, terrier mix
Mayu, weim |
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:54 am Post subject: |
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Most cases of Bordetella are mild. Many times there is no treatment required, it just runs its course in a week or do. Sometimes dogs are given a cough syrup if there is a lot of coughing. In more severe cases, Bordetella is treated with antibiotics. The dogs do continue to shed the virus for several weeks after the illness.
There are many strains of kennel cough. The vaccine does not protect for all strains, so even a vaccinated dog can get Bortetella. Recently, there has been at least one more serious type, I don't know if there is a vaccine available against this yet or not.
I think that many people do decide not to have this vaccination for their dogs (because most cases are mild). We do vaccinate both of ours -- Mayu we have to because we have boarded her and it was required. |
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Weimwayz Adult Weim

Joined: 26 Jun 2008 Posts: 273 Location: Southern Ontario
Fur Kids: Trinity, Chase & Faye all Weimaraners |
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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If you ever plan on boarding your weim or taking them to doggie daycare or parks they should have the bordetella vaccine. Most will not let your dog stay without it. There are 2 types of vaccines for bordetella/kennel couhg. once that goes down the nose (intranasal) and injectable. The intranasal one is the best as that is they way the virus is contacted is through the mucuos membranes. So it's said to be much more effective than the injectable version.
Since we are so active with our weims they all get it once yearly. When we are really in the the show circiut we vaccinate for it every 6 months. Kennel couhg is treatable with exspensice medication but it sounds terrible and the dogs are quite uncomfortable. The vaccine is great at preventing it and inespensive.
Kennel cough runs rampid at local dog parks and training facilities so it's a good idea to have it sone as a pup than address your sitiuation and possible exposure as you baby gets older |
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weimmom2 Young Weim

Joined: 23 Jan 2008 Posts: 140 Location: Michigan
Fur Kids: Samuel Adams--Weimaraner
Lucy Lou--Weimaraner
The Late Wilson Rae--Weimaraner |
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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| I did bordatella nasal version only. For lepto, We held off until age 3 years with both weims. I also separate all injections!! |
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KaspersMom Adult Weim

Joined: 30 Jul 2007 Posts: 331 Location: Kansas
Fur Kids: Kasper-1.5 year old |
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Kasper has had the vaccine due to the fact that he does get boarded once in a great while. |
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wildlifecr13 Wise Old Weim

Joined: 26 Jul 2005 Posts: 1477 Location: Ohio
Fur Kids: Zoe & Riley |
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:51 am Post subject: |
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we did nasal bordatella since we take ours to the dog park regularly.
zoe got some of it in her eye and got an eye infection - my vet said she has never had a dog get an eye infection from it before...
we had an irish setter get kennel cough when i was young - he had been given the vaccine prior, and got sick anyway. |
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anne Wise Old Weim

Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 2540 Location: Los Angeles, California
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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I'll present the other side....
I never vaccinate for this. It's a waste of time and money. It's like vaccinating for a cold. There are different strains so the vaccine may be ineffective. Also the vaccine causes viral shedding so the dog vaccinated can give it to others. Finally, the dog can easily get kennel cough from the vaccine itself. |
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versatilek9s Champion Weim

Joined: 27 May 2008 Posts: 527 Location: VA
Fur Kids: Maya, Sage & Macy--all weims |
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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i'm gonna pipe in and say that one of my dogs got bordatella as a pup--despite getting the vaccine. i have heard that the vaccine makes it "not as bad," but they're still gonna get it if they're exposed. i still give it to my dogs, but i'm seriously thinking about changing that.
i'd say if your dog gets boarded frequently or goes to the dog park, do it. if they don't, or only see other dogs at field trials, obedience stuff, or shows--don't bother.
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anne Wise Old Weim

Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 2540 Location: Los Angeles, California
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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| anne wrote: | | Also the vaccine causes viral shedding so the dog vaccinated can give it to others. |
I should have said that the intranasal causes more viral shedding due to the fact that it is MLV and of course the mucous membranes are right there in the nose. |
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Wrench Adult Weim

Joined: 12 Apr 2008 Posts: 409 Location: Houston,TX
Fur Kids: Wrench, My first Weim, his second. Our Easter puppy at 8 weeks old. |
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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I am not getting the lepto or the bordo ...if you board it is required...so is your rabies if you are trying to stretch on that one....we are waiting to do the rabies at least till 8 months though by law it's due at 6 months in my county ....
Well...we where going to take him on a trip to Colorado and chose that it wasn't best for him on this trip ( we will be too busy with family wedding stuff) and so then we thought we might have to board him...however...the great way to get around that is in-home pet sitting professionally! and guess what?! I found a GREAT business here and the owner will do the work in our home herself and she owns a weim! yeah!
So now I don't have to be forced to get the bordo or lepto and don't have to force getting the rabies too soon either.
And also he gets to stay in his own home too....
Also, the bordo doesn't cover all virus's as everyone else has posted and it's as it was put to me...humans get the flu shot and then get the flu all the time. But if you are going to have to board, do doggy daycare, etc then you will have to as required. |
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ChuckDC Young Weim

Joined: 25 Feb 2008 Posts: 122 Location: Fresno,CA
Fur Kids: None currently, due to work schedule
Ch. Hot Licks' Mad Max,CGC 11/30/90-6/27/2004 |
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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| anne wrote: | | anne wrote: | | Also the vaccine causes viral shedding so the dog vaccinated can give it to others. |
I should have said that the intranasal causes more viral shedding due to the fact that it is MLV and of course the mucous membranes are right there in the nose. |
Are they using a viral-carrier for Bordetella now?
Otherwise, it's bacterial, a relative of pertussis in humans. |
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mazzywest Young Weim

Joined: 25 Jun 2008 Posts: 152 Location: San Francisco, CA
Fur Kids: Pip, 9 week old pup; Gus, 1996-2008; Ashley, 1996-2002; Sigmund, 1995-1996 all weims |
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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We plan on boarding our dog over the holidays and sending him to day care once in a while, and we visited several day cares in San Francisco this weekend. At both places, you have to sign a form confirming that your dog has been vaccinated for Bordetella before they will even consider you, which I thought was interesting. I guess we'll be getting it.  |
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