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gailmetz
Housebroken
Housebroken


Joined: 27 Feb 2008
Posts: 73

Fur Kids: sammy, orange boy kitty
maxwell, orange boy kitty
gracy mae, grey girl
thumby, 6 toed beast cat
PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:16 pm    Post subject: Breeding my Weim Reply with quote

I had so much grief from some close family relatives about breeding my girl Gracie Mae. From the moment I thought about getting one, I knew I would breed her, if she turned out to be the best representation of the breed. I am not a gringo when it comes to breeding in general, having owned and bred Arabian horses for several years. I feel Weim's are very much like the Arabian horse, down to the high tail set, and regal elegance. Anyway, they believed I should have rescued one instead of bought one. Don't get me wrong, I have adopted many dogs, cats, etc.in the past, however, this time I really had a plan...Was I wrong? Are there really so many unwanted Weim's out there? I am feeling guilty..Any thoughts?
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kamfam
Wise Old Weim
Wise Old Weim


Joined: 29 Aug 2007
Posts: 2260
Location: Cleveland, OH
Fur Kids: Glacier, Samoyed
Darby, Weimaraner
Kam, Weimaraner
9/20/06 - 6/05/08
PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

visit petfinder.com
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nicwithcandy
Champion Weim
Champion Weim


Joined: 22 Oct 2007
Posts: 983
Location: New Jersey
Fur Kids: Newman (weim) Luca (weim)
5 cats: Cosmo, Kramer, Tiger, Patch, and Max
PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Breeding my Weim Reply with quote

gailmetz wrote:
I am not a gringo when it comes to breeding in general


What does that mean?
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weimdogmom
Champion Weim
Champion Weim


Joined: 11 Feb 2008
Posts: 708

Fur Kids: Jazz, terrier mix
Mayu, weim
PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Number of cats and dogs euthanized by shelters each year:
3-4 million (HSUS estimate)

http://www.hsus.org/pets/issues_affecting_our_pets/pet_overpopulation_and_ownership_statistics/hsus_pet_overpopulation_estimates.html

And these are only the cats and dogs in shelters who are euthanized. It does not include dogs that are dumped in the country or abused and ignored in homes, or in any other way mistreated.
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anne
Wise Old Weim
Wise Old Weim


Joined: 10 Aug 2005
Posts: 2690
Location: Los Angeles, California
PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are lots of unwanted Weims out there, but they are almost always in rescues. Shelter stats have gone way down. http://spanieljournal.com/33lbaughan.html
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NenaGunther
Wise Old Weim
Wise Old Weim


Joined: 11 Feb 2008
Posts: 1963
Location: Monticello, NY
Fur Kids: Nena CD, Weimaraner
Gunther, Weimaraner
PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kamfam wrote:
visit petfinder.com


Sorry, but I agree.
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BEANSnBERRY
Champion Weim
Champion Weim


Joined: 16 Sep 2007
Posts: 551
Location: Western Washington State
Fur Kids: Weim: AKC/UKC Ch. Waltz To The Top v. Anson, "Logan"

JRT Mix: Nikki (honorary 12 pound weim, and accomplished gray butt-kicker)
PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you mean if she's the "best" representation of the breed? Do you show her? Has she earned her Championship in conformation and at least one other title in field/hunt trials, obedience or agility? If so, then there is always room for well bred dogs, and let me add BRED RESPONSIBLY (have homes in line before your breeding takes place!) however there are far too many in rescue right now. Most place in excess of 80 weims a year, PER rescue, some in the 200 range. That's too many unwanted dogs, to add more to.

Weims are beautiful dogs, but unless you plan on showing your dog, there are a lot of BEAUTIFUL dogs in rescue.
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DoubleTrouble
Champion Weim
Champion Weim


Joined: 20 Jan 2008
Posts: 694

Fur Kids: Weimaraners: Josie and Cache
PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There ares SO many unwanted weims out there, and unwanted dogs in general. There is about a weim a day on the Kansas City craigslist and our rescue is overrun with dogs. These are BEAUTIFUL, smart, great weimaraners. Contact your local rescue about volunteering-- fostering, experience the plight of the second hand dog before you bring some more dogs in to the world.
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tltrooster
Champion Weim
Champion Weim


Joined: 26 Dec 2007
Posts: 513
Location: West Texas
Fur Kids: Champ - Weimaraner
PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

While I think they are the cutest things when they are puppies, I am sorry, but I dont know why anyone would want to bring more into this world with so many without homes. I wish there was a law that breeders could only have one litter and then the female would have to be spayed. This is a fight that I am having with my son who owns the dog that I take care of. I want to have him nuetered and he wants to have him mate with another weim. I am sorry, but I am fighting a very hard fight with both parties.

I told them if they want more weims, rescue them!!! So far I am winning
We cant get AKC papers and the other party wont do it unless he is
AKC registerd. I can get them, but I have to go back to his breeder, and
that could take a loooooonnnnngggg time!!!

Just my opinion.
Tammy
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AmyB
Wise Old Weim
Wise Old Weim


Joined: 21 Jul 2007
Posts: 1783
Location: Stevensville, Maryland
Fur Kids: Holly ~ 14 month old Weim
Roxy ~ 11 week old Jack Russell Terrier
PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tltrooster wrote:
While I think they are the cutest things when they are puppies, I am sorry, but I dont know why anyone would want to bring more into this world with so many without homes. I wish there was a law that breeders could only have one litter and then the female would have to be spayed. This is a fight that I am having with my son who owns the dog that I take care of. I want to have him nuetered and he wants to have him mate with another weim. I am sorry, but I am fighting a very hard fight with both parties.

I told them if they want more weims, rescue them!!! So far I am winning
We cant get AKC papers and the other party wont do it unless he is
AKC registerd. I can get them, but I have to go back to his breeder, and
that could take a loooooonnnnngggg time!!!

Just my opinion.
Tammy


Maybe you should just take him and have him neutered one day. Your son doesn't see him everyday does he? Let him find out the day he goes to breed him. Twisted Evil
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richandtiff
Young Weim
Young Weim


Joined: 02 Sep 2007
Posts: 154
Location: Ft Irwin, CA
Fur Kids: Sandi ~ Weim
Jack~Weim
PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know where his stuff went they must have fallen off somehow.... That is what you need to tell your son.
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shouseholder
Young Weim
Young Weim


Joined: 15 Jan 2008
Posts: 245
Location: Toledo, OH
Fur Kids: Mischa, Weimaraner
PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or you could tell him he had testicular cancer and they had to go.
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AmyB
Wise Old Weim
Wise Old Weim


Joined: 21 Jul 2007
Posts: 1783
Location: Stevensville, Maryland
Fur Kids: Holly ~ 14 month old Weim
Roxy ~ 11 week old Jack Russell Terrier
PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AW! Poor guy. Tell the Vet to replace them with some implants. Then just say he must be sterile when the bitch doesn't get pregnant.
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krisnkaipo
Adult Weim
Adult Weim


Joined: 22 Jun 2007
Posts: 373
Location: San Diego
Fur Kids: Wilson the Weim
PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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We actually did this when i worked as a vet assistant! It was a sheltie and the wife wanted the dog neutered and the man didn't. They really do have prosthetic testicles!!!!! Very Happy
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h20fwlkillr
Champion Weim
Champion Weim


Joined: 19 Dec 2006
Posts: 519
Location: Holden, Mo.
PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tltrooster wrote:
While I think they are the cutest things when they are puppies, I am sorry, but I dont know why anyone would want to bring more into this world with so many without homes. I wish there was a law that breeders could only have one litter and then the female would have to be spayed. This is a fight that I am having with my son who owns the dog that I take care of. I want to have him nuetered and he wants to have him mate with another weim. I am sorry, but I am fighting a very hard fight with both parties.

I told them if they want more weims, rescue them!!! So far I am winning
We cant get AKC papers and the other party wont do it unless he is
AKC registerd. I can get them, but I have to go back to his breeder, and
that could take a loooooonnnnngggg time!!!

Just my opinion.
Tammy


One must be very careful of laws they want. Limiting freedoms isn't the way to go. Let's say a law is passed to limit to one breeding. Then someone decides that is too many, so let's have none. Or maybe it worked so well they decide to apply the same philosophy to people to cut down on the population boom. Just look at China to see the ramifications of that. More legislation only makes things more difficult and takes away freedoms. Education is the way to go.
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