|
|
| Author |
Message |
Banshee13
Champion Weim
Joined: 21 Jan 2008
Posts: 619
Location: Berywn Heights, MD
Fur Kids: Banshee-female weim, 14 months
Ranger-neutered black lab mix, 11 months
Scout-male mountain view cur, 7 months
Kali-spayed female rottie/dobie mix, 12 yrs.
PLUS: 4 cats and a ferret! Any questions??!! |
 Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 4:49 pm Post subject: question about squirt bottle |
 |
|
How do you use the squirt bottle to stop the jumping? What is in it and where are you aiming when you squirt? Banshee loves water so much, she'll probably just stick out her tongue and try to catch the water!!
Banshee likes to jump when she is running full speed toward you. Or when she's in hyper mode. My husband tells me to put my knee up when I see her getting ready to lunge, but I HATE doing that. He said it worked for him and she never jumps on him anymore. Well, it obviously didn't TEACH her to not jump!
I would like to try the squirt bottle and see if that helps.
Peri |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
DukesMom
Wise Old Weim
Joined: 23 Dec 2007
Posts: 1352
Location: California
Fur Kids: Duke - Weim
Bailey - Pug
Gracie - Weim |
| Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:38 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| I have a squirt bottle filled with just plain old water. He doesn't jump on me, but when guests come over I hand it to them the second they walk in the door and tell them to put an open hand down to his face and tell him "no jumping" in a very stern voice BEFORE he even has a chance to jump and if he jumps anyways I tell them to fire away! Right in the face! I have the squirt bottle on spray setting which is just a fine mist, but it's enough to work. (And Duke likes water too) I think it's just more the shock factor. Trust me, it is working. It is a bit extreme, but I've tried everything else and I will not allow him to jump on people. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
scmeg72
Adult Weim
Joined: 26 Oct 2007
Posts: 367
Location: Murrells Inlet, SC
Fur Kids: Butler- weimeraner |
| Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:46 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| sterlings mom...you are such a bad a$$..i think we would get along royally!!! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
jaegertheweim
Wise Old Weim
Joined: 22 Oct 2007
Posts: 1188
Location: Seattle
|
| Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:47 pm Post subject: |
|
|
wimmaraner?  |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
sterlingsmom
Champion Weim
Joined: 13 May 2007
Posts: 925
Location: Tampa, Florida
Fur Kids: Two Weimaraners (Sterling and Colt)
Appendix Quarter Horse (Pride) |
| Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:49 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| scmeg72 wrote: | | sterlings mom...you are such a bad a$$..i think we would get along royally!!! |
 Only in this country do you get praised for being a little snot, right?? LOL!!!
I love you guys! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
sterlingsmom
Champion Weim
Joined: 13 May 2007
Posts: 925
Location: Tampa, Florida
Fur Kids: Two Weimaraners (Sterling and Colt)
Appendix Quarter Horse (Pride) |
| Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:53 pm Post subject: Re: question about squirt bottle |
|
|
| Banshee13 wrote: | How do you use the squirt bottle to stop the jumping? What is in it and where are you aiming when you squirt? Banshee loves water so much, she'll probably just stick out her tongue and try to catch the water!!
Banshee likes to jump when she is running full speed toward you. Or when she's in hyper mode. My husband tells me to put my knee up when I see her getting ready to lunge, but I HATE doing that. He said it worked for him and she never jumps on him anymore. Well, it obviously didn't TEACH her to not jump!
I would like to try the squirt bottle and see if that helps.
Peri |
I filled a regular squirt bottle (but I have water guns too!  ) with plain water. I use the stream setting because it's so direct. I don't squirt in the face..I go for the butt or the side. It's about two things...TIMING and shock factor..with no pain..lol..
the SECOND their feet leave the ground, I say no jump. If they don't immediately get down, squirt. I tried really hard not to let them see me with the bottle, but that didn't last long...they're super smart..but I swear it worked for us...Sterling doesn't jump anymore unless I invite her up..even then, she does it cautiously. Colt was never really a jumper to start with, thankfully! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
h20fwlkillr
Adult Weim
Joined: 19 Dec 2006
Posts: 485
Location: Holden, Mo.
|
| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:15 am Post subject: Re: Training |
|
|
| dmi2 wrote: | | I just discovered this site and am excited to share my knowledge of raising Wiems. As all have discovered or are discovering this breed is an exceptional breed to train and live with. I will not work on house training. Wiems are very independent and stubborn. Wiems always pick out the individual that is the most dominate person to listen to for direction. This is why it is important that the entire family is on the same page as far as training. All training must be done in the exact same manner, there are no exceptions! Your pet will prove this to you by showing his disobedience to one or the others. If it is not possible for all family members to participate in the daily training, all the commands from the dominant person need to be applied by all persons that are involved with your Wiems training. As pups (3 to 6 months) I would work with the sit command first. Hand signals with voice. IE: 1-finger + say sit. Many people give up on their Wiems before the first year. You have to have patience! You need to expect that your Wiem will always test your authority. In my experience Wiems are not ready for specialized training until they make the 1 year mark. It is very important that you work with your Wiem every day on your commands. Once you have tricked them to sit (they will only do it when they want) be patient until your Wiem has reached 8 months old. The next step is to teach them to stay. STAY IS THE MOST IMPORTANT COMMAND THIS BREED NEEDS TO LEARN! Start them with the sit command and then show a full hand, command stay, as early as 6 months but do not expect results. This is a very difficult time with your Wiem but with everyday work will prove it's results. Work on the stay command by walking away further and further and calling them to you to come to you and giving the command to sit when they get to you. As they get older keep this up and do not expect results until they are16 months old. The stay command must be mastered. The stay command will lead to the complete mastering for your Wiem. This will lead to walking your Wiem without a lease and they will come at your command no matter what command you use to call them. Jumping, biting, running away, barking are much easier to control than you think. I have raised 4 generations of Wiems and can give you advise about how to handle them but it will take alot of dedication to their needs. You need to realize you did not get this breed to satisfy you but to satisfy them. These are the most loving family members you will ever have and they want your guidance. Don't give up, they are like a 2 year old child until they are 5. If you need more advise please feel free to contact me. |
Wow!! 10 months to learn stay. If it's taking that long, better change methods. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
DanniGirl
Champion Weim
Joined: 01 Mar 2007
Posts: 836
Location: Flagstaff, AZ
Fur Kids: FM Blue Weim- "Danni" |
| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:22 am Post subject: Re: Training |
|
|
| h20fwlkillr wrote: |
Wow!! 10 months to learn stay. If it's taking that long, better change methods. |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Rosko
Young Weim
Joined: 27 Sep 2007
Posts: 187
Location: Sandy, Utah
Fur Kids: Rosko, 6 wks old... here Nov9th! (Weim)
Casey, 13yr Black Cat
Mina, 13yr Grey Cat
Lucy, 13yr Calico Cat |
| Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:28 pm Post subject: Re: Training |
|
|
| h20fwlkillr wrote: |
Wow!! 10 months to learn stay. If it's taking that long, better change methods. |
Seriously, 10 weeks maybe.... but 10 months? Stay has been the easiest command for me to get Rosko locked 100% on (even easier than 'sit', go figure).
Not sure where the OP got his/her information, but it seems really really off.
Rosko, at 20 weeks today, can do the following on one cue hand or voice or both: Sit, stay, down, 'bang'(play dead), shake, paw (left shake), 'keep it real' (paw tap on fist hipster style with paw response based on which fist is out), rollover, leave it, off, 'alright' (used a less common word than 'ok' or 'release'), up (getting in car, on top of boxes, etc.), wait (for getting out of car or staying out of way at top of stairs, etc.), easy, heel, 'chill' (to down and calm some, just a down variation with same hand signal basically but less serious), find it, get it, drop it, give it, bring it, bed, kennel, 100% housetrained by 16 weeks and probably a couple more parlor tricks I'm forgetting.
I didn't list 'Come' because I dont' think it's done until it's perfect (are any tricks ever done?), and sometimes it takes a couple calls to get his attention (I'm hoping it's just a puppy thing). Been using 'hey' as a attention grabber but need to really get 'whoa' in the mix now to differentiate.
The only issues we are having revolve around 'attention' in distracting situations (like puppy class). He will do the tricks, but he wants to run and play and pulls to go meet the other puppies/dogs anytime there are some around (same with people). He's _extremely_ social and just wants to meet everyone so will try to pull to them. Working that one out still. Not sure how to fix it quickly... That might be his long term crutch unless it's just puppy curiousity.
The OP must have had some really slow Weims. I'm a firm believer that training starts day one (with the breeder) with sound and light training and lots of people. By six weeks 'formal' training should be beginning (i.e. sit, stay, etc.) with eight weeks being the latest start on the general obedience stuff. Puppies are ready to absorb. They _want_ to learn and are more encouraged by positive results. Take as much advantage of that as possible, I say.
Sterlingsmom, that pee thing is something else. I'm not even close to figuring why that's happening. Rosko crate trained with the usual steps you mentioned fine. I think we got really lucky. Try some electric fence under the pad? Haha. Just kidding.
I did find that if there was _any_ residual urine smell (even that which we can't smell ourselves) that it would at least get Rosko 'interested' back when we were first housebreaking him. I'm assuming you use enzymes and all that stuff to ensure the odor is completely gone from everything, so not sure how applicable that is. Good luck. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
anne
Wise Old Weim
Joined: 10 Aug 2005
Posts: 2632
Location: Los Angeles, California
|
| Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:53 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| LMAO, who is this OP anyway? Talk about setting the bar low. I think I'd kill myself if I couldn't expect a well trained dog before 12 or 16 months old. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
DukesMom
Wise Old Weim
Joined: 23 Dec 2007
Posts: 1352
Location: California
Fur Kids: Duke - Weim
Bailey - Pug
Gracie - Weim |
| Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:02 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Quote: | | LMAO, who is this OP anyway? Talk about setting the bar low. I think I'd kill myself if I couldn't expect a well trained dog before 12 or 16 months |
old. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Banshee13
Champion Weim
Joined: 21 Jan 2008
Posts: 619
Location: Berywn Heights, MD
Fur Kids: Banshee-female weim, 14 months
Ranger-neutered black lab mix, 11 months
Scout-male mountain view cur, 7 months
Kali-spayed female rottie/dobie mix, 12 yrs.
PLUS: 4 cats and a ferret! Any questions??!! |
| Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:52 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Well, Banshee is almost a year old and even though she had some training before I got her (in November)--she is FAR from "trained". She responds to most commands SOMETIMES and some commands MOST times, but I have to keep at it. We went to our first basic obedience class and even though we jumped in at week 5, Banshee did better than most of the dogs in the class. In fact, she made her momma proud! She even did good on the STAY command, which is the most challenging for her, as she is so hyper! If I had had her from puppy, I'm sure she'd be much farther along, but then again, Scout just turned 4 months and he's...well...BAD!  No, not bad, just really stubborn....and whiney....and terribly spoiled (being the "baby" and all!)
Peri |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
