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WeiMe
Adult Weim
Joined: 06 May 2007
Posts: 430
Location: Pocatello, Idaho
Fur Kids: Female Weimaraner -
Skyline Riders Lil Scout,
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 Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:49 pm Post subject: Close running dog. |
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I am thinking about doing some hunt tests with Scout. I was wondering, will they penalize her for being a close gun dog? She will get ahead of me about 50 or 75 yards if there is a favorable breeze but she spends a lot of time much closer. This is actually ideal for me because I am on foot and not a great shot but I have seen my friends GSH's run and they run really far ahead! They are out of site a lot of the time. Of course my friends are serious field trial competitors and they usually hunt on horse back.
Chances are if I do a hunt test around here it will be with a GSH club so I was just wondering how they will score my velcro dog  |
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h20fwlkillr
Adult Weim
Joined: 19 Dec 2006
Posts: 486
Location: Holden, Mo.
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| As long as he isn't a boot licker, everything should be OK. Range isn't as much an issue as hunting ability and bird manners. |
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anne
Wise Old Weim
Joined: 10 Aug 2005
Posts: 2632
Location: Los Angeles, California
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| I agree, as long as the dog is hunting, range should not be a big issue in hunt tests. HUNTING, not piddling around, not on a Sunday walk (and trust me I've seen a lot of those kinds of dogs). I have a close ranging dog and bigger ranging dog. Both are productive. I even have field trial points on my closer ranging dog... Why? Because she was hunting and moving, and finding birds even if she was working close. Go for it, you'll have fun! |
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Sphynx
Puppy
Joined: 18 Oct 2007
Posts: 5
Location: Omaha, NE
Fur Kids: Female |
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Hi,
I am new to this forum. We have an 8 month old Weim, Sphynx, we have in hunting school and one of the big problems the trainer is having with her is she will stay super close to him and won't get out in front at all even with another dog. Any solutions/similar problems? I would appreciate any advise. |
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h20fwlkillr
Adult Weim
Joined: 19 Dec 2006
Posts: 486
Location: Holden, Mo.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | am new to this forum. We have an 8 month old Weim, Sphynx, we have in hunting school and one of the big problems the trainer is having with her is she will stay super close to him and won't get out in front at all even with another dog. Any solutions/similar problems? I would appreciate any advise. |
Does your trainer have any experience with training weims?
It sounds to me like she isn't quite sure what she should be doing. Building bird desire and confidence will expand ranging. Harsh training tactics can lead to shadowing as well.
At 8 months old, I wouldn't be terribly concerned yet. For some weims the light switch doesn't kick on until 2-3 yo. Make sure your trainer really knows how to deal with soft natured breeds like weims, and puts your pup into as many birds as possible. |
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Sphynx
Puppy
Joined: 18 Oct 2007
Posts: 5
Location: Omaha, NE
Fur Kids: Female |
| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you for the information.
Our trainer fortunately does have experience training Weims and is great at not using harsh punishments. It is really hard to find a trainer around Nebraska that will even take a Weim.
The trainer said she loves birds and they try not to lead her to their planted birds but get her close to one and she will get them up if she kind of stumbles over one but she won't just go find a bird. He currently has been working her with as many birds as he can. He also said she is very tempermental in hunting. If she doesn't want to hunt she simply won't. Is this typical?
We would appreciate any advise as this is our first hunting dog and we really have no idea what to expect. As a house dog, she is excellent and well-behaved. |
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anne
Wise Old Weim
Joined: 10 Aug 2005
Posts: 2632
Location: Los Angeles, California
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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| What kind of lines is she from? |
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h20fwlkillr
Adult Weim
Joined: 19 Dec 2006
Posts: 486
Location: Holden, Mo.
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| Sphynx wrote: | Thank you for the information.
Our trainer fortunately does have experience training Weims and is great at not using harsh punishments. It is really hard to find a trainer around Nebraska that will even take a Weim.
The trainer said she loves birds and they try not to lead her to their planted birds but get her close to one and she will get them up if she kind of stumbles over one but she won't just go find a bird. He currently has been working her with as many birds as he can. He also said she is very tempermental in hunting. If she doesn't want to hunt she simply won't. Is this typical?
We would appreciate any advise as this is our first hunting dog and we really have no idea what to expect. As a house dog, she is excellent and well-behaved. |
She sounds like she is either confused or has no idea what she should be doing. How long has she been at the trainer? Some weims seem like they take forever before the start to "get it". I wouldn't plant birds for a dog like this. Launchers only and lead the dog in until I get a reaction ( lunge, flash point , head turn or actual point ) then pop the bird up. Planted birds don't react like wild birds and can be easily caught.
Some weims will only hunt for their owner, although I don't think thats the case with your dog. |
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