Illusion Collar

Pinchc44 · Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 4:02 pm Post subject: Illusion Collar

Have any of you seen the Illusion Collar that Cesar Millan uses on his show? What are your thoughts on it. I have considered investing in one and wanted to know if anyone has any thoughts on it good or bad.

Christie

youhavenoidea · Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 4:09 pm Post subject:

I think Cesar is a hack, but I'm not familiar with the collar, so I'm no help there.

weimamama · Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 4:19 pm Post subject:

youhavenoidea · Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 4:32 pm Post subject:

Pharaoh07 · Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:36 am Post subject:

All it does it just place the collar higher on the neck where it's more sensitive for the dog - it looks like a double collar, but that's just to keep the useful one in place.

He doesn't even use it himself, unless he's giving it to a family that wants something that works and doesn't take a lot of readjusting.

It's nothing new, all he uses himself is a bit of rope and places it just behind the jaw, where show dog collars and leashes go. The placement works. The collar (yes, overpriced) just puts it in position for you with no work on your part.

Pinchc44 · Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:08 am Post subject:

Thanks for the feedback. Doesn't seem worth it at all to me.

angels6442 · Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:08 pm Post subject:

We broke down and thought we'd try the Illusion Collar before getting a pinch collar. First hint should have been when it said "...start with a calm submissive dog..." Snide

Needless to say it didn't work! Guess we'll be trying the pinch collar before I end up flat out in the road Rolling Eyes

weimamama · Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:34 pm Post subject:

CherrystoneWeims · Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:18 pm Post subject:

Don't be afraid of the pinch collar. It is such a misconception that it is hurting the dog. Put one on your arm and try it on yourself. You will see that it really does not hurt.

Anyone who does serious obedience for competition, titles, field work, etc uses either a chain choke collar or a pinch/prong collar. I recommend a Herm Sprenger brand collar. Get a size small and add links for a Weim.

The halti/Gentle Leader is not good for a dog. Studies done at UC Davis have shown a higher incidence of disc problems in dogs who have had one used on them.

singsmom · Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:12 pm Post subject:

I LOVE the easy-walk harness. I have used it on 2 young, excited dogs and I no longer have them choking on a regular or choke style collar or pulling me along. My trainer also recommended it. I had been using the Gentle Leader too and she thought this would be better since the Easy Walk harness doesn't pull their head around like the Gentle Leader, it only redirects them to you and they are not able to pull forward like in a regular harness.

angels6442 · Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:13 am Post subject:

[b Think one of the biggest problems is that when we adopted Tommy he was 2 1/2yrs & the only time he was on a leash was to go to the vets. His old house had a bigger yard so they didn't go for walks. We adopted him from a family that had his mom & dad but dad was getting more and more aggresive with him as he got older.

We've tried numerous leads, harnesses, collars with no luck. Think the funnest is the haltie...It's like walking a flopping fish!

I was worried about the pinch collar BUT a friend of mine has a Weim and she's never had any problems.

Mommy just wants to walk, even at a "good clip" instead of being dragged & yanked Sad

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