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Pharaoh07
Housebroken
Housebroken


Joined: 04 Sep 2008
Posts: 90
Location: North Carolina
Fur Kids: Winston (Weimaraner)
PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 8:06 am    Post subject: ARRRGGG Reply with quote

I am going through an awful time housetraining my 3.5 month old puppy. When we first brought him home (he was a rescue who spent his infancy in a cage), we didn't watch him too closely so there were a few accidents.

We began watching him like a hawk a month ago, taking him outside after eating, sleeping, & playing, and issuing lots of praise and treats when he did his business outside. He will easily pee on command now. We designated one door as the Bathroom Access Only door, put bells on it, and I taught him how to ring them with the immediate result being a treat and an open door.

But we can NOT get him to alert us when he has to go! He'll sit at the door for about 10 seconds and if we miss that, we run the risk of him choosing a spot in the house instead. Every time he even brushes by the bells, we immediately jump up with praise and open the door.

I think he feels that the bells are required for ME to use to open the door, not for him to signal anything. We've tried to teach him to bark, but that doesn't work either, he's a very quiet dog.

Last night he slept in our bed, it's very high off the ground and he always fidgets when he needs to go out. I am out of bed in a flash taking him outside. However, last night my husband woke up and realized the dog was GONE. I flew out of bed, found him, and coaxed him excitedly towards the door. No desire to go out... because he left a nice big puddle on the carpet near the bed. Forensics say he was facing away from the door at the time so it wasn't like he even tried to head out. Needless to say we crated him for the rest of the night.

Winston KNOWS he needs to pee outside. He just doesn't know how to hold on and tell us. Maybe it's because we take him out so often without waiting for him to tell us?? I know if we don't, he'll go inside instead. I desperately need help!!!
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peppernaei
Wise Old Weim
Wise Old Weim


Joined: 26 Aug 2007
Posts: 1226
Location: southern ontario
Fur Kids: marvin - weimaraner - 1 year
zaphod - shih tzu cross - 15 years
PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some of my dogs have never asked to go outside. They're all different. Are you still using the crate? Personally, it doesn't sound like he really knows to go outside yet.

I would start over in potty training (maybe on the weekend). I always start with going out every half hour when they're little and out of the crate especially after food and exercise. I then add 15 mins as they get better. Remember every accident in the house sets you back. I also interrupt the accident if I catch them in the act. I do this quietly, just scoop them up, since I don't want them to be afraid of relieving themselves in front of me.

Also I like to take them on a leash so that it is clearly potty time and not play time. Keep using your key word 'cause that is always handy and remember your crate is your best option when you can't watch him every second.

Just another thought. I had a friend who taught her dog the bells by having the bells rung on the way back in from a successful potty trip so the association was clearer.

Good Luck Very Happy
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singsmom
Young Weim
Young Weim


Joined: 26 Sep 2008
Posts: 227
Location: SE Missouri
Fur Kids: Marcy-old golden, Hershey-weim baby, Buddy-huge baby/foster, Black cat, Mittens, Ricky=cats, Gunny, now my precious weim angel
PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When he is loose in the house try fastening him to you to make sure he doesn't sneak off for now. And their bladders can hold how old they are, so 3.5 months= 3.5 hours even at night. I never free feed either since puppies need to go right after eating and we always say the key word before and during pottying. I have been really lucky. My 17 week old has been perfect, but we watch him like a hawk and take him out often and he is crated at night. Luckily my son stays up late and lets him out last and I get up really early or hear him moving around and need to go in the night. A few times he has made it through the night- about 7-8 hours, probably if he didn't drink as much late.
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yoko
Young Weim
Young Weim


Joined: 24 Jul 2008
Posts: 243
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Fur Kids: Yoko
6 month old weim born in Alabama, moved to Michigan, then brought home to Toronto. Thanks to GLWR.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All those ideas sound good.

One thing, have you thought of getting his urine checked to make sure he doesn't have a urinary tract infection? I only ask because Yoko had one at 4 months old and the symptoms were frequent peeing.
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Pharaoh07
Housebroken
Housebroken


Joined: 04 Sep 2008
Posts: 90
Location: North Carolina
Fur Kids: Winston (Weimaraner)
PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AGGGHH!!! I swear, my dog must read these posts. Just after I posted it, Winston started ringing the bells on the door loudly and sits and waits patiently for us to open it. I can't believe it, it's been almost week and he has been consistent! I hate to jinx myself but.... I think my dog is housebroken!!!

Time to clean the carpets, this time for good.
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greydogs
Adult Weim
Adult Weim


Joined: 09 Oct 2007
Posts: 495
Location: portland
Fur Kids: vishnu
lakshmi
PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

congratulations!
knock on wood and fingers and paws crossed.
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Tarverfamily
Young Weim
Young Weim


Joined: 03 Oct 2008
Posts: 107
Location: Chicago
Fur Kids: Lady GSP/Weim (german chocolate weimaraner) female
Ashley Weim female
(fosters dogs)
Buddy male weim
Shelby female weim ADOPTED Smile
Sammy male weim ADOPTED Smile
PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL heheheheheheh hope he is... if he regresses (remember hes still a baby) I would try and crate him every night till he gets the routine. Also never let him out of your sight...thats when they are doing their thing... thats why crating at night is a good idea! Some will potty in the crate so make sure you thoroughly clean it if he does. I would also follow the advice I read higher up and take him in to the vet if its excessive. Remember they have small little bladders and sometimes the muscle aren't developed and he might have a hard time holding at this age. The bells might be triggering his bladder as my zipper will sometimes me! LOL Stay consistent expect & accidents hes a pup. Some pups get it right away others take a long time... Sounds like your doing a great job though...good work! Puppy pad by the door maybe???
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scrbear11
Adult Weim
Adult Weim


Joined: 09 Jul 2008
Posts: 392

Fur Kids: "Zehen" 1/2/08 Weimaraner
"Zuna" 5/4/08 Rhodesian Ridgeback
PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pharaoh07 wrote:
AGGGHH!!! I swear, my dog must read these posts. Just after I posted it, Winston started ringing the bells on the door loudly and sits and waits patiently for us to open it. I can't believe it, it's been almost week and he has been consistent! I hate to jinx myself but.... I think my dog is housebroken!!!

Time to clean the carpets, this time for good.


You know... I was going to tell you to do this! Very Happy Fasten bells to the front and back doors and when you take him up to the door to open it and let him out ring it- it will start to associate the ringing bell with going outside. A man at my vet office told me about this- he has a lab who learned to ring the bells when he needed to go out. It made house training soooo easy he said.

Zuna at 5 months old still tinkles every so often in the house, and when she gets excited she pees all over the place. So our carpets need a good cleaning too!
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Tarverfamily
Young Weim
Young Weim


Joined: 03 Oct 2008
Posts: 107
Location: Chicago
Fur Kids: Lady GSP/Weim (german chocolate weimaraner) female
Ashley Weim female
(fosters dogs)
Buddy male weim
Shelby female weim ADOPTED Smile
Sammy male weim ADOPTED Smile
PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How has he been doing ?? Getting better??
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ICARUS
Adult Weim
Adult Weim


Joined: 31 Mar 2008
Posts: 393
Location: Grafton MA
Fur Kids: Icarus & Mindy - weims
PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pharaoh07 wrote:
AGGGHH!!! I swear, my dog must read these posts. Just after I posted it, Winston started ringing the bells on the door loudly and sits and waits patiently for us to open it. I can't believe it, it's been almost week and he has been consistent! I hate to jinx myself but.... I think my dog is housebroken!!!

Time to clean the carpets, this time for good.


We did the bell thing too. I think it's great...however Icarus like to ring the bell to go out and play sometimes ( Rolling Eyes he's too smart for his own good sometimes) Remember that every dog is different and will get it in their own time. Also you may want to hold off for like a month for carpet cleaning just to be sure. Congrats! My fingers are crossed!
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freespiritmom
Wise Old Weim
Wise Old Weim


Joined: 01 Apr 2008
Posts: 1348
Location: East Texas
Fur Kids: Silver Bullet, Sam Elliott & Duke
PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would try to stop giving a treat every time he rings the bell, offer praise and open the door, but he may be ringing just for the treat.
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Pharaoh07
Housebroken
Housebroken


Joined: 04 Sep 2008
Posts: 90
Location: North Carolina
Fur Kids: Winston (Weimaraner)
PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think he's got it!! He hasn't peed in the house once since that night Smile I don't give him treats or praise or encouragement - he just walks up to the door when he has to go, rings it, goes out and does his thing, then returns.

I am so proud of him -- I think he figured I was at my wits end and then decided to do what I wanted him to do all along...
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weimdawgs
Wise Old Weim
Wise Old Weim


Joined: 08 Jun 2007
Posts: 5792
Location: East Norriton, PA
Fur Kids: Scout, Silkie, Gunnar and Jake

all Weimaraners
PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't clean the carpets just yet...it'll jinx you. Wait just a bit.
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