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headweim1 · Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:02 pm Post subject:

I honestly am not sure of the name of the enzyme off of the top of my head, I will try to look this up for you. I remember reading that it is one of the same enzymes that causes issues in people with phenylketonuria. I was first taught about it many moons ago by the biochemist/nutritionist friend that was my mentor for wildlife rehabilitation. I have also had a zoology professor tell me that radishes and turnips in particular also contain thiosulphate, the same toxin that is found in onion and in lesser quantities in garlic (he worked with me at the Smithsonian Conservation and Research Center creating new diets for Maned Wolves which were dying in zoos due to the lack of veggies and fruit in their diet)

"Other potential dangers
Pear pips, the kernels of plums, peaches and apricots, apple core pips, raisins and grapes (contain cyanogenic glycosides resulting in cyanide posioning and possible kidney failure)
Potato peelings and green looking potatoes
Rhubarb leaves
Mouldy/spoiled foods
Alcohol
Yeast dough
Coffee grounds, beans & tea (caffeine)
Hops (used in home brewing)
Tomato leaves & stems (green parts)
Broccoli or cauliflower (uncooked or in large amounts)
Cigarettes, tobacco, cigars"

This is an excerpt from a wildlife rehabilitation manual that was published by the National Wildlife Rehabilitation Association. It is a partial list of foods to avoid in canids. I'm pretty sure if it's bad for a coyote it's bad for a weimy. If anyone knows any other info on the foods above or if anyone has been told something else, please let me know. Still learning as always Smile

. I'm sure the info changes periodically with new science.

Oh, the new study about the grape seeds is something that a friend is working on with a professor in the L.S.U. Veterinary School. No official results yet but I will gladly share when she sends me more info. Smile

(Always fun to find another bio-nerd like me! Smile

) For now I know that it doesn't appear to be the insides of the seed that cause the damage. It seems to be the seed coats themselves. Hence there is at least some evidence so far that grape seed extract might be fine but the skin may not be. I have always been told that seedless grapes are okay. Does anyone know if this is true?

Brooke

richandtiff · Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:11 pm Post subject:

sandi ate so much food one time she was having breathing problems and I had to take her to the vet no more grazing for her I now feed her small amounts each day. I had good sucess with the prong collar but she is not a stupid girl she knew the diffenerence when she had that on and when she had her regular collar on when we went for walks now we just run. well I bike and she runs.

anne · Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:11 pm Post subject:

Well I don't feed a lot of the cruciferous veggies (pulped not whole, don't care about whole since it doesn't digest well) because of Vit A overload, but otherwise, I feed such a variety and so little I am not realy worried about it... I also feed apple cores, grapes, garlic and even sometimes a smdge of chocolate. I know these things are toxic in large quantities. Don't know whether it's the skin of the grapes or not.
Anyway, just curious.

headweim1 · Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:20 pm Post subject:

No, problem Smile

. Mine eat lots of veggies but after I learned more info through rehab they have gone to cooked instead of raw on most of them. Mine too enjoy chocolate! Just a bit though Smile

. Now if someone would just lie and tell me that it had the same effect on people as it has on dogs maybe I'd lose some weight!!! Laughing

My lab especially loves tomatoes and cabbage. We had to build a fence around the garden because he would eat everything before I could get to it! One day while he was at the nutritionist friend's house he stole and ate four heads of cabbage off of the counter top in the time it took her to walk out to the mailbox and back. I'm just glad she had him for the gas afterwards instead of me!!!

Brooke