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jmwgomz Housebroken

Joined: 26 Feb 2008 Posts: 83 Location: San Diego, CA
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Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 10:04 am Post subject: New Food - "Give it time." How long? |
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Hello everyone, I recently switched Zeke off of Canidae and on to California Natural. He's been having loose stool (it's prety much soup!) for the past three days. I'm considering trying a different food but am wondering if I should give this one more time. How long should it take to adjust to a new food?
Thanks in advance! |
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LunaBrown Wise Old Weim

Joined: 21 Jul 2007 Posts: 2240 Location: Minneapolis, MN
Fur Kids: Luna, Weimaraner
Murphy, Kittycat
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Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 10:20 am Post subject: |
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When we switched Luna from Canidae to Wellness CORE, our vet said that it could take up to 3 months before we knew if it was working for sure...
I think it's been about 5 or 6 weeks now and I think everything is good to go with the switch. |
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kamfam Wise Old Weim

Joined: 29 Aug 2007 Posts: 2260 Location: Cleveland, OH
Fur Kids: Glacier, Samoyed
Darby, Weimaraner
Kam, Weimaraner
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Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 10:25 am Post subject: |
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| Has it been only about 3 days since you made the switch? Is it possible it could be something else? |
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jmwgomz Housebroken

Joined: 26 Feb 2008 Posts: 83 Location: San Diego, CA
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Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 10:25 am Post subject: |
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| LunaBrown wrote: | When we switched Luna from Canidae to Wellness CORE, our vet said that it could take up to 3 months before we knew if it was working for sure...
I think it's been about 5 or 6 weeks now and I think everything is good to go with the switch. |
WOW!!! Up to three months with soupstool!!! When I originally switched him to Canidae from Kirkland he had SOFT stool for ~2 days. He never had this soupstool phenomenon. |
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LunaBrown Wise Old Weim

Joined: 21 Jul 2007 Posts: 2240 Location: Minneapolis, MN
Fur Kids: Luna, Weimaraner
Murphy, Kittycat
Paige, Kittycat |
Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 10:30 am Post subject: |
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| jmwgomz wrote: | | LunaBrown wrote: | When we switched Luna from Canidae to Wellness CORE, our vet said that it could take up to 3 months before we knew if it was working for sure...
I think it's been about 5 or 6 weeks now and I think everything is good to go with the switch. |
WOW!!! Up to three months with soupstool!!! When I originally switched him to Canidae from Kirkland he had SOFT stool for ~2 days. He never had this soupstool phenomenon. |
If her tummy was upset, I would not personally have let it go that long though.... If Cal. Natural does not work itself out in a few weeks or so I would be worried too.
The last few food switches we went through prior to Canidae did not go well - it ended up with pudding poo, or a really stinky behind... at which point we ruled out red meat and lamb as far as protein sources. I now know that we need to go poultry-based for her to do well..
If the Kirkland works, why not switch back to that.... "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"  |
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jmwgomz Housebroken

Joined: 26 Feb 2008 Posts: 83 Location: San Diego, CA
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Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 10:57 am Post subject: |
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| LunaBrown wrote: | If her tummy was upset, I would not personally have let it go that long though.... If Cal. Natural does not work itself out in a few weeks or so I would be worried too.
The last few food switches we went through prior to Canidae did not go well - it ended up with pudding poo, or a really stinky behind... at which point we ruled out red meat and lamb as far as protein sources. I now know that we need to go poultry-based for her to do well..
If the Kirkland works, why not switch back to that.... "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"  |
Do you think it would be ok to switch straight from the CalNat Lamb to the CalNat Chicken? The only real difference seems to be the protein source. I really want to fix this. I can tell he's not comfortable. Runny stool and super-gassy. He's still his active/upbeat self though and eats readily so I'm 99% sure it's just the food switch. |
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karen9497 Young Weim

Joined: 16 Jul 2008 Posts: 120
Fur Kids: Seamus 3 y/o choc lab
Pepper 9 month old Weim |
Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 11:00 am Post subject: |
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| Did you gradually ween the dog off the old food, or did you just switch cold turkey? My dogs need to be weened, or I wind up in your predicament. We are switching from ProPlan Sensitive Skin and Stomach to a venison based food. Pepper was doing fine on the ProPlan, but my Lab was getting ear infections. I'm trying to find a food that agrees with BOTH of them. |
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LunaBrown Wise Old Weim

Joined: 21 Jul 2007 Posts: 2240 Location: Minneapolis, MN
Fur Kids: Luna, Weimaraner
Murphy, Kittycat
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Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 11:00 am Post subject: |
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| jmwgomz wrote: | | Do you think it would be ok to switch straight from the CalNat Lamb to the CalNat Chicken? The only real difference seems to be the protein source. I really want to fix this. I can tell he's not comfortable. Runny stool and super-gassy. He's still his active/upbeat self though and eats readily so I'm 99% sure it's just the food switch. |
I am no expert, but if it is that bad what have you got to lose? If chicken worked before, it ought to work again! I'm pretty sure we just plain cut off a couple of foods that were REALLY not working...
Keep us posted! |
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peppernaei Wise Old Weim

Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 1332 Location: southern ontario
Fur Kids: marvin - weimaraner - 1 year
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Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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If his stomach is really that upset I would go to bland chicken or lean ground beef and white rice for a few days and then reintroduce whatever food you decide. You can serve the bland food somewhat moist to add to his water uptake.
Good luck. |
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GailB Wise Old Weim

Joined: 17 Sep 2007 Posts: 1886 Location: New Brunswick,Canada
Fur Kids: Shadow 10 yr.old Black female labrador retriever. Hunter 4 yr. old weim |
Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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Poor Zeke and your poor yard....I have just switched my two dogs to a new food over about a 15 day transition..There was a little gas about 2 times but that was it..poos are fine...
You can add a spoonful of pumpkin to his food in hopes of firming up his poo...
Is he drinking good?...dehydration is what I would be concerned about....
Does his rear seem to be bothering him?
Zeke
Hope this clears up soon for you and Zeke.... |
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hoochmamas Wise Old Weim

Joined: 15 Nov 2007 Posts: 1476 Location: new jersey
Fur Kids: a nonfur kid named kadin. he was 9 in august. 2 domestic cats.. hotto is 12, kendall (AKA benz) is 6.. hooch macalli monster is our weim, born 11-11-07.. mostly known as "Hooch", the late Boo.. weim |
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 6:50 am Post subject: |
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yeah.. if you didn't switch gradually, i would stop kibble all together and do boiled chicken, broth, rice, probiotics and a little honey or occasional oatmeal with a touch of applesauce until things firm up.. lots of fresh water and ice cubes..
then slowly add in the new kibble to that mix.. until it is more kibble than human food.. and see what happens.
unfortunately, we have had quite a few poo incidents around here.. he was on the homemade diet for almost a month one time, and 2 weeks another.. i'd just make big batches, separate them in containers in the fridge, and pray for solid poo..
good luck! |
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Underdonk Young Weim

Joined: 04 Sep 2007 Posts: 152 Location: Central KY
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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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| I just made the switch to a new food with Enzo and he is having some problems as well. When feeding the chicken and rice diet to settle things down, how much do you feed 'em and what ratio of chicken to rice? |
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jmwgomz Housebroken

Joined: 26 Feb 2008 Posts: 83 Location: San Diego, CA
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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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| GailB wrote: | Poor Zeke and your poor yard....I have just switched my two dogs to a new food over about a 15 day transition..There was a little gas about 2 times but that was it..poos are fine...
You can add a spoonful of pumpkin to his food in hopes of firming up his poo...
Is he drinking good?...dehydration is what I would be concerned about....
Does his rear seem to be bothering him?
Zeke
Hope this clears up soon for you and Zeke.... |
Well, I hadn't noticed that his rear was bothering him until today. He started trying to poop and then began dragging his rear end on the grass. He's never done this before. A quick search pointed me twards worms. But he just went through a de-wormer about two weeks ago. |
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hoochmamas Wise Old Weim

Joined: 15 Nov 2007 Posts: 1476 Location: new jersey
Fur Kids: a nonfur kid named kadin. he was 9 in august. 2 domestic cats.. hotto is 12, kendall (AKA benz) is 6.. hooch macalli monster is our weim, born 11-11-07.. mostly known as "Hooch", the late Boo.. weim |
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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poor pups!! i would give hooch one and a half breast tenderloins to about a cup or so of rice, moistened with low sodium broth, a probiotic cap sprinkled on top, with a teaspoon of honey.. 3-4 times a day.. depending.. it would depend on the size/age/activity level of your pup, too..
1/4 to 1/2 cup real oatmeal with some unsweetened apple sauce would be a good choice, too for once a day.. |
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Phoenix1705 Champion Weim

Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Posts: 701 Location: Eastern, IA
Fur Kids: Greta-Weim
Bo-Weim
Della Brown-Aussie Mix
Leo-Rat
Midnight Mini Lionhead Rex
Luna- Mini Lionhead Rex |
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Every dog is different, too, I know Bo and Greta can switch foods pretty much with minimal issues. They recover within a few days. However, they are used to being switched up as I don't keep them on one specific kibble constantly, I switch between different blends so they don't grow to accustom to one kibble. I know the update with Canidae didn't do Greta any favors so I switched her off that completely. |
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