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joelsilverman
Housebroken
Joined: 08 Oct 2008
Posts: 71
Location: Rancho Santa Margarita, CA
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 Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 10:06 pm Post subject: Simis |
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First of all, I want to say thank you. I just enjoy helping people, and it is great to be appreciated. I think I was mentioning that I trained some Weims for a Purina Pro Plan commercial last year, so I got a chance to spend some time with these dogs. It's funny because so many of the posts that I have read have the same basic problem. It was something I saw when I worked with the dogs too! And that is most of you are blessed with a just high prey drive happy playful dog.
Here is what I would recommend many of you. Teach your dog to STAY, which I am sure many of your dogs know, but walk to your dog and reward him for staying with a treat. Go to my website and click on the ONLINE DOG TRAINING AREA, and go to "STAY". There are about 12 one minute videos on STAY.
The method to my madness is that the dog needs to just understand that it is all about him STAYING. You can do a variety of things. You can stand next to the dog and reward him for STAYING. You can get some distance and make him STAY for 30 seconds. The point that you want to get to your dog is that it's all about him SITTING and STAYING.
I really believe this will help you begin to calm your dog. This is just a start. I have more ideas. |
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joelsilverman
Housebroken
Joined: 08 Oct 2008
Posts: 71
Location: Rancho Santa Margarita, CA
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 10:08 pm Post subject: Ange165 |
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Hi there..
For you I would recommend what I mentioned to Simis, but also on my website while you are in the ONLINE DOG TRAINING area, I would go to the HEEL behavior. There is a real cool way to train it that has 16 one minute clips that I believe will help you keep your dog next to you and more in control. |
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amazonstarlight
Wise Old Weim
Joined: 29 Jan 2008
Posts: 1878
Location: Oklahoma
Fur Kids: Sadie the Rottweiler/Chow mix, Asia and Bella the kitties. Scooter (Scooter Booter) 4 yr old Weim boy. |
| Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 12:31 pm Post subject: Re: Amazonstartlight |
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| joelsilverman wrote: | Ok... you need to first figure out why the dog is not jumping in. I know that one of the reasons is that some dogs just cannot figure it out, and sometimes it is because they just may hurt a bit. I know this dog is young so that is probably not the problem, but I do like to mention it.
When I was training Bear, who played Dreyfuss on the TV series EMPTY NEST, he could not jump in my truck. I trained him to put his feet up and then I lifted his hind end. I put an arm under his stomach and the hand under his tail on the backs of his legs. It was much easier. I did the same thing with my dog DUKE, (the dog all over my website). I like doing that with some of the larger dogs that may be a little prone to hip problems. Hope this helps. |
Thanks for the advice, Joel. As for jumping, he can totally do that, he leaps and bounds over my other dog when they play. But if I can at least train him to put his front feet up that would be a huge help. It's not easy lifting a leggy 85lb weim!  |
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joelsilverman
Housebroken
Joined: 08 Oct 2008
Posts: 71
Location: Rancho Santa Margarita, CA
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| Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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| I gotcha.. Ok.. I would then train it and make it a behavior. I am going to ask you a few questions. Does your dog like jumping on the couch or is he allowed to? Is there something in the house he jumps up on? |
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simis
Champion Weim
Joined: 18 Jan 2008
Posts: 921
Fur Kids: Rosie - weim
Louise & Kodiak - Siamese kitties |
| Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 4:27 pm Post subject: Re: Simis |
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| joelsilverman wrote: |
And that is most of you are blessed with a just high prey drive happy playful dog. |
Isn't that the truth! I might add while I love that's what she is, I just want to achieve with her the best she has to offer to me and at the same time increase her knowledge and our bond (as I'm sure many of us do, afterall we do come to a forum to discuss our dogs!)
| joelsilverman wrote: |
I really believe this will help you begin to calm your dog. This is just a start. I have more ideas. |
Thank you, we are making much more of an effort to make more stand stays (because that is what I want during a casual conversation during our walks!) so this makes perfect sense to practice in the house while I go to pet the cat, etc...
I am curious what your thoughts are for successfully getting their attention back:
| Quote: | | What suggestions do you have please to gain my weims attention back to me when she becomes distracted? For example, when in training or everyday life, if she sees another animal on the TV she is unfamiliar with, she almost becomes fixated on it - how can I snap her attention back to me and keep her calm so she doesn't go into a trance or barking frenzy? I have tried calling her name, and get no response. Then I have moved up to a slight touch on the shoulder, and sometimes, but not 100% of the time get a quick look and she'll begin to think and either do the behavior with less intensity, i.e. she'll sort of mumble at the TV now, or I can redirect her to sit, lay down, etc. which then I praise her greatly. |
Again, thank you! |
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amazonstarlight
Wise Old Weim
Joined: 29 Jan 2008
Posts: 1878
Location: Oklahoma
Fur Kids: Sadie the Rottweiler/Chow mix, Asia and Bella the kitties. Scooter (Scooter Booter) 4 yr old Weim boy. |
| Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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| joelsilverman wrote: | | I gotcha.. Ok.. I would then train it and make it a behavior. I am going to ask you a few questions. Does your dog like jumping on the couch or is he allowed to? Is there something in the house he jumps up on? |
Well, only within the past few days has he been allowed on the couch and it's only when I am on there. I coaxed him up by having my other dog lay there with me and only then he would jump up. However, after about 2 nights of that last night as I was laying down he decided that he wanted up with me. I never called or coaxed him and he made a flying jump over me and onto the couch behind. Literally one simple move. I am wondering if I sit in the Xterra with him and coax him up into it if that would help. Treat him every time too? What do you think? |
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joelsilverman
Housebroken
Joined: 08 Oct 2008
Posts: 71
Location: Rancho Santa Margarita, CA
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| Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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It doesn't necessarily have to be the couch. It could be anything the dog likes to, or is allowed to jump on. But here is where I am going. Let's me show you in steps:
1. Put the dog on a leash
2. Stand with the dog next to you about 3 ft from the couch
3. Put a piece of food on the couch, but far enough to where the dog would have to jump up on the couch to get it. Let him see you do it.
4. You might need to bring your dog to the couch to see it again.
5. When he sees it, take him away
6. Bring him back to 3 feet away so he can get a little momentum
7. As you bring him to the couch and he jumps up and get the treat, give him a verbal cue like "get up".
This is the beginning... Try this to start.... |
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youhavenoidea
Wise Old Weim
Joined: 27 Jan 2008
Posts: 1922
Location: Simcoe, Ontario, Canada
Fur Kids: Slade - Weimaraner |
| Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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| SirSilver wrote: | | Point taken. I just can't fit a crate into my car. I would love to be able to! I know he is happier when he's crated in the car. I think I will just take it back to basics and work with him while the car is off, idling, etc. Thanks. |
I don't know what kind of car you have,, but I have a small car that won't fit a crate, either. In my Ford Focus ZX3 (two-door), I removed the parcel shelf in the trunk / hatch, and installed a pet barrier. I sewed a cover to protect my trunk, sewed a pillow the size of the trunk floor for Slade to sleep on , and put a blanket back there. When all's said and done, the enclosure is almost exactly the same size as a 42" crate, and he LOVES it back there. He either sits up and looks out the huge hatch window, or lies down and goes to sleep. And I never have to worry about him squirming around of getting at anything, because I know he's safe back there.
Granted, I've been traveling alot with Slade since he was 8 weeks old, and he's never had a problem with the car, but perhaps giving your guy a nice secure setup that didn't involve tethering would make him more comfy?
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joelsilverman
Housebroken
Joined: 08 Oct 2008
Posts: 71
Location: Rancho Santa Margarita, CA
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| Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Great.. what I showed you was a way to teach your dog to jump up on something. If you just start off with that I am sure I can help you get the dog to jump in the car. Did what I send you make sense to you? |
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amazonstarlight
Wise Old Weim
Joined: 29 Jan 2008
Posts: 1878
Location: Oklahoma
Fur Kids: Sadie the Rottweiler/Chow mix, Asia and Bella the kitties. Scooter (Scooter Booter) 4 yr old Weim boy. |
| Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, Joel. I appreciate your input on the jumping into the car. I will definitely try that approach. I'm not really sure why he won't jump, he just doesn't even try if you ask him. Silly pup. I'll give it a go this week and see how he does with that approach.
Thanks again! |
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joelsilverman
Housebroken
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Posts: 71
Location: Rancho Santa Margarita, CA
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| Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Actually I have seen a number of dogs that just can't figure it out. But once you actually train it somewhere else and put it on "cue", you can then move it to the car. Good luck... |
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joelsilverman
Housebroken
Joined: 08 Oct 2008
Posts: 71
Location: Rancho Santa Margarita, CA
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:18 am Post subject: |
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| By the way, that is just the beginning of the behavior. I just want you to focus on that part OK? Message me back when your dog is just doing that. |
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