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lovinmyweim
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:26 pm    Post subject: help! he won't stop jumping on people! Reply with quote

My guy is 7 mnts old and holy cow does he ever get himself in trouble, raiding the garbage, stealing food from the kids, separation anxiety+++(sp), running away and not even looking my way when I call, chasing the cats, barking, biting or nibbling, chewing on anything he can find, but my number one problem would be the jumping up, he's huge and knocks people down esp the kids, I do know obedience training is in the future, but I really can't afford it right now,so does anyone know a way to stop this behavior? or has any advise for me to hold us over until we can afford to go to school?[color=violet][/color]
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nurse88
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sometimes KD doesn't know when to stop!!! I turn my back on her and walk away and she charges! I think, hope this stops or she will be getting many more time outs in the future. We have the baby gate to do this, but we try not to be too mean with the punishments. She is very clutsy and bangs into things so sometimes we wonder???
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sterlingsmom
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Joined: 13 May 2007
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Location: Tampa, Florida
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

many disagree, but many do not. I used the water bottle and squirted Sterling in the butt if I said off or no jump and she still did it.
REALLY sounds like your pup needs some obedience asap though Wink
At the very least, he seems to obviously not understand who's the boss. Be MORE assertive.
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lovinmyweim
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

how do I be more assertive? how can i make him think I'm boss? Somehow the hubby and kids get it but not the dog.LOL.
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Phoenix1705
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Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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Location: Eastern, IA
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use the water bottle as well. Greta still doesn't mind the bath even though water is her discipline method. Now all I have to do is say her name and use the bottle. I have three bottles all exactly the same that I use. One for upstairs one for downstairs and one for when we travel. That was she knows exactly the bottle and it's effects. Also, with having a rescue that was extremely abused in the house with her using a firm voice with any increase in volume freaks him out even though it's not directed at him. The water bottle has been extremely effective for me and my girls!
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FensMom
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Location: Excelsior Springs, MO
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fen likes to jump when he is excited. I found that if I tell him to 'sit' in a very firm tone of voice this will start to calm him down. The first time you may have to push his tush down.. even more so if he is really excited. But for us at about the 3rd "Fen! Sit!" He will do so and calm down. He gets ZERO attention from the person he is jumping at till he follows the command. Once he does so he gets lavished in a rub down.

This shows him 1. that you are the boss...the reminder of making him sit points that fact out to him right away and that 2. jumping is not the way to receive the attention he is craving.

As hard as it may be let him jump but don't yell down or the like only the sit command. Getting to upset gets him the attention but in the wrong way.. only he doesn't really make the connection that it is the wrong way..simply that he got the attention.

This seems to have worked out very well for us with Fen. He does jump still when I come home from work but not near like he used to and while it used to take us a good 30 min. to calm him down, now it only takes around 1-3.

Of course for this to work the pup needs to be able to at least somewhat understand the sit command.
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DanniGirl
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sterlingsmom wrote:

REALLY sounds like your pup needs some obedience asap though Wink
At the very least, he seems to obviously not understand who's the boss. Be MORE assertive.


Agreed.

lovinmyweim wrote:
how do I be more assertive?


Start the NILIF...ASAP! (Nothing in life is free...) He must earn his privileges. Before you feed him, make him sit. Before he goes outside make him sit or lay down, etc...No more free reign of the house, furniture, etc.

Raiding the garbage
I would pick him up by the scruff and shake him telling him NO. If he's to heavy, I'd grab him by the scruff and shove his nose into the garbage (that is on the floor) with a loud NO.

stealing food from the kids
I would not stand for that for one second! Again, grab by scruff and shove him on the floor while telling him NO.

running away and not even looking my way when I call
Keep a check cord on him and pull him when you call, start from the beginning and work your way up. DO NOT CALL HIM WHEN HE'S RUNNING AWAY, this will only teach him to ignore you. DO NOT let him off a leash unless he returns, he must earn that privilege.


biting or nibbling

There's a difference, is he play nibbling or is he breaking skin?
Either way I wouldn't allow biting and again, he gets shoved to the floor with a loud NO and no more playing.

I know this all sounds harsh but you MUST be assertive. If you were the boss he would expect this and react accordingly. From your previous post, it sounds like he's BOSS. He does what he wants, when he wants. You need to put him in his place.
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quignov
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I too have a 7 month old, but I just got her about 3 weeks ago from a rescue.She is decently well trained, and I have begun working with her. However, she is a major jumper as well. In fact, I just came on here looking to ask the same question, so thanks to the previous posters for the answer/suggestions on how to get her to stop jumping. I think that not giving her any attention except to get her to sit right away sounds like it could work. I'll be trying that tomorrow when I get home from work, which is for the most part when she does her jumping as she is just sooo excited !! haha.
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DoubleTrouble
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What everyone said is great! What has been working for us: We adopted a girl a couple weeks ago who is just a bit older than your boy. We have started NILIF on her, and it's been amazing. Previously, she would not sit for dinner or sit at all on command. Since we have been making her sit for everything, she has been doing great. She has to sit to get dinner, to go out the door and she can only come out the door after me and once I say "come", she has to sit for me to put the leash on, anything that she loves. Apart from dinner, she also gets a cookie reward when she does something right. If she won't sit, her food is put away until she is ready to sit. If your dog jumps on on you when you go to hand him the treat, don't give it to him until he sits down. My obedience trainer who saw our girl's problem said we need to make her sit to get attention from anyone. We have tested this out yet, but logically it would work, just difficult to execute at first. Just carry treats with you and before someone approaching you can pet or greet, or even walk by if the problem is that bad, make your dog sit, give him a reward and only let people give him attention when he is sitting. It'll probably be a big pain, but be patient.

Until you can start obedience class, just work on rewarding his good behavior (sitting, coming when called), with a treat & the same word each time or a clicker works well. Our puppy ignores "no" but when she knows what she needs to do to get a treat, she will gladly do it.

I hope this helps. Try looking into classes into your area. I was very suprised to find out how cheap classes by a local group are, compared to classes at PetCo or PetsMart. These trainers at our local club also have much more experience than any pet store trainer.
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harpbonefran
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Location: Nutley, NJ
Fur Kids: Gracie, weimaraner mix
PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen in books and on obedience shows that when they jump up on you, you should cross your arms and turn you back on them. It is most effective when you anticipate the jump. I assume that the idea is that they are denied your attention when you turn your back on them. I used this method to train my weim mix to stop jumping. I also use the command "off" if I see that she still wants to jump on other people. But she really doesn't do it anymore. If you tell other people who visit your home to do this when they come in, it reinforces your efforts.
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Rosko
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With Rosko we did the cross arms and turn away (sometimes with a hip check for safety). This worked somewhat; however, if he's persistent and doesn't stop right away we found he started to think of it as a game (we turn, he runs around and jumps... oh what fun).

So, now, he gets one chance to get it and 'sit'. If he doesn't get the hint, we leave the room/area/restraint range so he can't get any attention at all and simply ignore him completely doing other things.

It seems to be working well. In fact, he has developed a new thing: He will often simply 'crash' into us now instead. He comes running full clock for a 'Come' or something and instead of 'jumping up' he just shoulder checks and bounces off. Kinda silly, but even at only 45lbs you can certainly feel it. In the process now of killing that action too. This ain't football!
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MavericksMa
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My weim Maverick always was jumping on people as they came into the house. This was a big problem when it was my grandparents or my children's friends. A full grown weim can knock down and seriously hurt someone=( The way I delt with this problem was to install a hook on the wall by the floor and put her on her leash whenever company came. The guest would say hi and pet her, and then Maverick would get a kong treat to keep her busy for awhile. After ten mins. or so I let her off leash and she is ready to calmly interact with our guests=) After a couple of months of doing this, she has learned to go to her "spot" when people come over. We don't need to put her on her leash often, she just waits for her treat. However, there still are times when she just is too excited to care=)
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Leicasmom
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They just taught us about this at obedience class last week. When the dog jumps, place your hands out in front (hands open and flat, crossing them together). When the dog jumps, push your hands down and push them down on the nose saying "off" and then "sit". Reward the dog for the sit part of it. They said that most often, children or others will put their hands out in front when a dog begins to jump, so if they recognize that signal, they will eventually learn to stay down.

I must say, I was a little skeptical until the instructor demonstrated with Leica...and sure enough it works. We've been practicing at home and it only takes once or twice for her to get it. With more time, I'm hoping she'll stop altogether.
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weim2mom
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My two do this too. I knee them. not hard, just nudge them with my knee when the jump. worked very well on chevy and hemi. when they sit, praise them!
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imamonstertruck
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Location: Louisville Kentucky
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Turkish used to be real bad about jumping. Everytime I would come in the house or out of the shower, usually pulling off my towel, he would jump all of the time. After visiting other forums for answers and getting none of the tips to work I thought I would make a command out of it.

So for about a week, and it took only 1 weeks time, I would command the word *hugs* everytime he would jump. After that first week I noticed he would hesitate and wait for me to ask him for *hugs*, I would ask and he would jump and he would get rewarded. A few days of that and he has never given one unwarrented jump on anyone.

Such a good boy Turkish Very Happy
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